Angelina well, there are different variations, i think it's difficult to draw a line there.
Yes,but I know what would be accepted or punished.
So,not very risked for her to disobey.
Would it have an impact if she knows you are disappointed,or doesn't she care much?
Fighting is ok,but trying to cut it,destroy it or to pick the lock is not accepted.
Vanessa Yes,but I know what would be accepted or punished.
then it's ok, you can do certain things without fear of getting caught. 
Vanessa Fighting is ok,but trying to cut it,destroy it or to pick the lock is not accepted.
so the border is at the point where you would have a good chance to succeed ?
Angelina then it's ok, you can do certain things without fear of getting caught.
Yes,and it would be impossible to not fight it.
Angelina so the border is at the point where you would have a good chance to succeed ?
Probably;even if they not tell it this way,they probably know I can't win against my chastity belt if I don't destroy it or pick the lock.
Vanessa Yes,and it would be impossible to not fight it.
that's true, but some parents don't see that. my father didn't see it as normal at the beginning either. that was the reason why i got the thigh bands and the bra in the beginning. now he accepts my fights but he has seen other advantages in the devices.
Vanessa Probably;even if they not tell it this way,they probably know I can't win against my chastity belt if I don't destroy it or pick the lock.
I think it should still be discussed, otherwise you will be punished for something just because your parents misjudge it.
Vanessa Yes,and it would be impossible to not fight it
I have learned that it is possible to learn to not fight it. I normally don't touch my belt except for cleaning and things like that. In our family any try to remove or get around our equipment is a punishable offence and the more we try the more we loose our privacy.
Angelina that's true, but some parents don't see that. my father didn't see it as normal at the beginning either. that was the reason why i got the thigh bands and the bra in the beginning. now he accepts my fights but he has seen other advantages in the devices.
I was lucky that my parents quickly accepted it.
Angelina I think it should still be discussed, otherwise you will be punished for something just because your parents misjudge it.
I may try to discuss it with them,but I'm pretty sure trying to destroy the chastity belt or trying to pick the lock would mean a punishment...
Very hard rules!
Do they think you can find a way to cheat on your belt,or is it because they want you to "accept" it?
So,an effective deterrent?
Vanessa I was lucky that my parents quickly accepted it.
unfortunately, it was too late for my father and now he doesn't want to do without this additional security.
Vanessa I may try to discuss it with them,but I'm pretty sure trying to destroy the chastity belt or trying to pick the lock would mean a punishment...
yes, that would be the same for me, that's why we have the deal that i only get punished when i succeed, but i always think where is the limit?
Sara2001 Absolutely.
Not too hard to follow this rule,however?
Angelina unfortunately, it was too late for my father and now he doesn't want to do without this additional security.
Too bad he doesn't accepted your fights before ordering the additional chastity devices...
Angelina yes, that would be the same for me, that's why we have the deal that i only get punished when i succeed, but i always think where is the limit?
If they caught me fighting it in a way that makes the belt destroyed or with lockpicking tools.
Vanessa Too bad he doesn't accepted your fights before ordering the additional chastity devices...
unfortunately yes, but it's no use, now i have these devices and have to try to make the best of it. 
Vanessa If they caught me fighting it in a way that makes the belt destroyed or with lockpicking tools.
it could still be problematic to draw the line, but i think i can understand what you mean.
I understand it;even if a bit different,it is hard for me to not open the boxes containing the key of my chastity belt,and knowing what could be the consequences help to follow the rule.
Angelina unfortunately yes, but it's no use, now i have these devices and have to try to make the best of it.
Yes,not much choice now,especially as he likes the additional security,even if accepting your fights.Has he accepted you fight the added devices more easily?
Angelina it could still be problematic to draw the line, but i think i can understand what you mean.
When used to it,it is easier to guess what would be allowed or not.
Vanessa Has he accepted you fight the added devices more easily?
yes, he accepts it, but unfortunately he has also realised that my chances are significantly lower due to the additional devices, which he likes in turn.
Vanessa When used to it,it is easier to guess what would be allowed or not.
yes, that's right. i think if i knew your parents, i would know.
Hi. Is here somebody with experiences? For discussion? How it was by you...?
