Tobbe Well, except if you make sure the person can't do anything that time. Unlock him / her and take her for a walk outside - he/she can't touch himself/ herself in public. If the supervised walk takes for some hours it is till 25/7

    Max9 If we're gonna be picky, I'm talking about time with the chastity belt on (24/7) and you about denial.

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      Tobbe Well, then you also must not have any opening for cleaning, because as soon as you shortly open the belt to clean it it has not been on 24/7 anympre - maybe 23:45 / 7 ... so there must be some exceptions in 24/7 that don't cpunt as being unlocked because it wouldn't be possible otherwise. And I would say that as long as it is made sure that you can't touch yourself down there, in order to please yourself, it's still 24/7.

        Max9 We can always go to extremes, but all who uses chastity belts and does not want to harm the user understands that there must be minor interruptions. As easy as having to stop and refuel a car, even if you drive a distance non-stop.
        To not please yourself is only denial.

        • Max9 replied to this.

          Tobbe who uses chastity belts and does not want to harm the user understands that there must be minor interruptions.

          That's exactly what I'm saying ... you can't be locked without interruptions. The only quedtion is jow long the inzerruptions can be withput loosing the 24/7 status. When it's about female wearers the question does seem to be easy, but when it's about male wearers it becomes more difficult - because wee do need to have an errecrion from time to time for our health according to an urologist of my trust. That means ypu need to be unlocked for a certain amount of time to be able to habe an errection. That time you can spend either handcuffed in your room or going out for a wall with one of your parents / your keyholder.

            Max9 You still mix 24/7 denial with 24/7 use of chastity belt.
            If you is belted 24/7, you wear it 24/7 and it is only taken off for short periods, such as cleaning, examination or replacement to another chastity belt.
            Not go out for guarded walks unbelted or sleep nights with other inability to touch your sex.

            • Max9 replied to this.

              Tobbe Yes, but that would men men can't be 24/7 without taking care of their health.... no - because this erevtion is part of the healthcare just like cleaning the device it must be seen as such.
              So beinh unlocked for like half an hour every 2 or 3 weeks still is 24/7 chastity as long as this unlocked time is due to the gender of your body necessary for your health. It is to be seen as part of a cleaning seassion.
              Planes for example also need to do a bigger inspection from time to time. Butstill they are not counted as being out of use judt because they have a b check and not only a checks.

              When it's like - I prefer to sleep unlocke it isn't 24/7 anymore of course - bust judt because you have a big inspection not a small one it doesn't mean that chastity did end.

              Everybody needs to be unlocked for vlesning from time to time and every male needs to be erect once a month ... if you call a big inspection as not 24/7 anymore you keed to be consequent and also call small inspections (cleaning openings) as not 24/7 - becaude both of them are same important for the health.

                Seems a little like an argument in only semantics. 24/7 references time as a continuous period. It doesn't specify the context of what the period entails. Thus you can make it anything you want.

                In my own case I have only considered 24/7 as a reference regarding lack of access to the keys that lock me in. Hygiene, medical necessities and releases simply because my keyholder wants them are a bit irrelevant to the fact that I want her in control 24/7. The joy for me is that she decides 24/7 and it is her wish I have access should there be an emergency release for my safety.

                  Foxies
                  I have to agree. I think this is the sense for me too.

                  Foxies too much of those can make the frustration even worse 😅

                  that's right, it's definitely a big problem. i have tried many things (and am trying many things now) but either it has no effect or it frustrates even more because it stimulates but does not lead to orgasm 🙁

                  Max9 you can't be locked without interruptions.

                  nobody ever said that. the 24/7 are related to the time without orgasm, not to the time in the belt. the belt only helps to reach the 24/7

                  this discussion somehow makes no sense to me, wearing the belt is never permanent for men and women, but it is about what the time is used for

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                    Max9 every male needs to be erect once a month

                    Is this true? I admit its not my field of specialty but looking at the research suggests that this is a misleading statement.

                    As far as I can find out, no one has done studies to determine this either way. There is a Finish study from 2008 (questionnaire only) that suggest that men who engage in regular sex in middle age get less erectile disfunction than their peers that don't. The study did not include masturbation. But it could well be that those with erectile dysfunction at the beginning didn't bother to try and have sex in the first place, possibly out of misplaced embarrassment. There were many other confounders too.

                    There is other evidence that sperm count decreases with men who have less frequent sex. But sperm count is a function of many things including hormone production and a man who suddenly finds a new and willing partner could well get more sex drive and increase their sperm count.

                    There is plenty of anecdotal evidence on websites that men who are locked in chastity cages initially suffer painful trapped erections. For those that persevere, within a week or two these subside and from then on wearing a cage is reasonably well tolerated. Its harder to know whether once men are released from such devices after a significant duration, if they lose the ability to erect. Personally I doubt it and I would be professionally interested in any male experience on this forum who has personal knowledge of such.

                    The problem is that there are many causes of erectile disfunction. The biggest would be obesity, hypertension, diabetes and smoking. basically anything that increases your risk of heart attacks or strokes. Note to cannabis users - smoking cannabis is far worse than smoking cigarettes - not because of the cannabinoids but due to the nature of smocking vegetable matter laced with fertilizers and God knows what.

                    (Was this off topic and is anyone interested? Probably not Lol 🤣)

                      Foxies Sample of 1 I know, but I've owned a load of belts over the years and wear a Neosteel like @Verrouille right now. I've not experienced any ED or Peyronie's etc.

                      @Foxies
                      Ive been using a device for several years now. (Purchased first device in 2010) I find my self performing just fine in all areas. Lol.
                      Even in a device the penis still gets hard despite the confinement. The prostate still works. Ejaculate and seman are still produced and expelled from the body mostly via Nocturnal emission when built up.

                      Foxies

                      i would not say that this is about sex or masturbation, but rather that the blood vessels could be damaged if all erections are stopped, this could lead to men not being able to have erections at some point

                      Foxies Is this true? I admit its not my field of specialty but looking at the research suggests that this is a misleading statement.

                      In this statement I refer to Birkhahn, M.D., specislist for urology, who says erections to be very imoortant for the health... I'm nrither a specialidt, but I believe him as he is a professional and I once got told by someone who said to have given up erections for chastity that he got many poblems because of that and had to undergo many painful surgeries.

                      https://youtu.be/hGh2i3LWgVU
                      Edit: That's an explanation video of the doc ... he works in a specialised hospital / doctor's office for male genitals.
                      Edit2: Sure, I don't know how many of them are necessary / are said to be necessary, but most people who are locked that I read about in forums get a monthly release... so I think every few weeks / every month would be good ...

                      Angelina I see it differently, at least it helps us to feel normal

                      Yes,but,due to the focus of the board,we thought about our chastity devices when writing here!😉

                      Foxies I still suffer frustrations however. I am sure other girls will not approve (since it borders on cheating), but I find thumping on the main shield, vacuum cleaning 🤣 , leaning on the washing machine and yes, resorting to feeling the sensations from my partners power tools occasionally etc 🤣 , sort of helpful. Though too much of those can make the frustration even worse 😅

                      We all try to find ways to help us mange it!😉

                      But often it end in being even more frustrated,as it isn't enough to let us reach orgasm...

                      Foxies

                      Seems a good way to define it.

                      Foxies Personally I doubt it and I would be professionally interested in any male experience on this forum who has personal knowledge of such.

                      It was the case for American's graffiti,but he doesn't post on this board.

                        Vanessa Yes,but,due to the focus of the board,we thought about our chastity devices when writing here!😉

                        partly, partly, at the moment I think I don't have enough time to answer everything the way I want to.

                          Angelina

                          It can be hard presently,yes.

                          But when writing here,I always think more of my chastity belt...