Regarding the initial question, here are some relevant passages from the Catechism of the Catholic Church, with my comments in the next response:

“The Church understands the purposes of sexuality to be the begetting children and the mutual pleasure for building the couple's unity. Therefore, any deliberate activation of the sexual function outside the proper state of marriage and the purposes noted is seriously inordinate; if done voluntarily and knowingly, it is sinful. Within marriage such self- or mutual-stimulation is moral only when in some way it prepares for or completes a natural act of sexual intercourse.

Within the Church's teaching on human sexuality, masturbation is considered to be objectively disordered or intrinsically evil (in se malum or intrinsece malum); that is, no circumstances or intentions can render the action of masturbation "morally good." The degree or seriousness of the moral culpability of a particular act of masturbation, however, can be judged only in light of the degree of the moral agent's knowledge, freedom, and intentions. Full moral guilt requires a fully deliberate choice of what the person sufficiently realizes to be seriously evil, which can then be evaluated as gravely, or mortally, sinful. If the act is performed with only partial realization or only partial choice of the will, the person is presumed to be guilty only of venial sin.”

    This is what Catholic parents, especially those who grew up before the 1970s, are taught. It is what my late parents believed, and what my mother-in-law still believes. My parents were informed in no uncertain terms that it was their solemn, godly responsibility to instruct a child in the extreme moral dangers of masturbation.

    indeed, calling masturbation a gravely disordered mortal sin is about the strongest language the church has — in their eyes, self-touch is up there with rape and murder. The sinner is at severe risk of going to hell. In fact, if you’re a parent who knows their offspring masturbates, it is made clear that YOU are at equal risk of eternal damnation if you don’t take all steps and any means necessary to curb it. The parents are maybe even more at risk — the text makes clear that teenagers get a pass for accidentally discovering it and not knowing the sin, but parents should know better and are responsible for instructing the son or daughter.

    The only reason my parents never used a belt on me was because they had no idea they existed — it was the 80s and they were very sheltered. But the scarring emotional abuse — of being told I would be tortured in hell for all eternity for self-touch — was probably worse.

    I don’t buy into this line of thinking, but literally hundreds of millions of parents worldwide in the Baby Boom generation were taught these precise words. There’s no mystery as to why THEY find self-stimulation so horrifying.

    Saintprudence

    Thank God for giving us the Catholic Church to tell us what is right and what it wrong. And thank God(s) that my partner and I are atheists! 🤣

        Foxies the funny thing about my life now is that my parents would disagree with almost everything about it, but wearing my chastity belt? THAT they would approve of!

          Vanessa Only if it is excessive.

          That's why I prefer to limit to not become excessive.

              a_father But your parents could love you the same way without your equipment. Or not? If the love depends on the belt, there is no love.

              Of course my father would still love my sister or me when we decide to get rid of the belt, but he would be extremely disappointed and stop any support. It's far away from an easy decision for him. It has nothing to do with love.

              • Joh replied to this.

                  I would guess its addiction. Similar to how kids want more candy after trying it for the first time. Young adults would want more ways to seek pleasure and feel that "release" of ecstasy. I don't blame parents being worried, but I wouldn't know any other way to stop it other than to prevent the feeling of the first one in their lives.

                  Do anyone know if there are drugs to stop those "feelings"? (Not that I suggest it, but I am curious if others resorted to using this type of solution)

                    Angelina i know it's a thin ice, but unfortunately many crimes today are described in a very undifferentiated way, which is why i make this statement with reservations, of course, but i think i'll stick to it in principle.

                    With this statement you give pedophiles the legitimacy to act unconscionably in their family.

                    Our society has learned from the experience of decades and introduced these laws. I think with your almost 18 years you do not have the knowledge, the experience or the overview to simply deny it and know it better.

                        Angelina it doesn't change the overall situation.

                        You don't know it finally if you don't try.
                        You say you father loves you. If he really loves you he will be angry first but after time he will accept it that it is the wrong way. If he can't accept it he is not really loving you from my point of view.

                            Sara2001 and stop any support.

                            He can't stop it as long as you are apprenticeship or education.

                            And as wrote before, yes he will be disappointed first but if he sees in the long run you sister did fine and has a stable relation as she likes he may find out she is still his daughter which he loves.
                            For your relation I don't see any difference coming up. The only thing which would change is that Daniel is full in charge. I suppose Daniel will always listen to the recommendation of your father and his father but make the decision on his own.

                                Joh I'm not sure about Daniel. There are man who love the chastity belt more than the girl.... Sorry @Sara2001, but you should talk about this
                                with Daniel. Maybe after marriage and perhapse a pregnancy you can't wear the belt anymore. Can Daniel accept this? Otherwise he is not Mr. Right.

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                                    Joh In the case of @Angelina I fear it is abuse. And her father got two for one (@Angelina and her girlfriend). I'm sure nothing of this had happend, if @Angelina's mother would be still present. What would she say about this situation? Perhapse a question for @Angelina's father...

                                        a_father Now you depend on him, but in ten years...

                                        I am still dependent in a way, because he is then probably my boss at work. 😂

                                        a_father If he realises, that you are like an elephant and won't forget he may think about what he does.

                                        i won't forget, but that's the point, of course i won't forget that against my will i have to wear these chastity devices, but i also won't forget that he has been raising me alone for 17 years and takes very loving care of me outside the topic of sex and masturbation 🙂

                                        Foxies And thank God(s) that my partner and I are atheists! 🤣

                                        I was going to write the same 🤣

                                        Joh With this statement you give pedophiles the legitimacy to act unconscionably in their family.

                                        that's why i say i know it's a very thin ice, on the other hand you're on thin ice with me when you claim to compare my situation to paedophilia

                                        Joh I think with your almost 18 years you do not have the knowledge, the experience or the overview to simply deny it and know it better.

                                        i am not the only person in the world who thinks like this, there are also many who are older and think exactly like this.
                                        besides, i don't let myself be reduced to my age and also not to my chastity equipment.

                                        Joh If he really loves you he will be angry first but after time he will accept it that it is the wrong way.

                                        he will forgive me because he loves me that's true, but he won't think it's the wrong way to go

                                        a_father and her girlfriend

                                        that's actually not true either, my girlfriend is not restricted, she can have an orgasm at any time, but she's not allowed to get it from me. we could have done without the belt, but then we would have had almost no privacy.

                                        a_father , if @Angelina's mother would be still present. What would she say about this situation? Perhapse a question for @Angelina's father...

                                        i don't want to have anything more to do with my mother. she left me when i was a baby, i don't even know if she's still alive and it didn't care me, she's a stranger to me. incidentally, that's abuse for me.

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                                                          Angelina on the other hand you're on thin ice with me when you claim to compare my situation to paedophilia

                                                          Did I? No I didn't!
                                                          I pointed out the consequences which rise up with your argument you use to break the law.

                                                          Angelina i am not the only person in the world who thinks like this,

                                                          I agree with that but it doesn't mater. You live in Germany and the German law applies. If you are in a different country it could be legal. This is all was I am talking about.

                                                          I do not reduce you to your age or your chastity equipment. I am trying to show you the impact of your view and that you are putting yourselves above the law.

                                                          I can follow your train of thought and understand why you compromise. But call it what it is and don't push some morality to legitimise it. That's just trying to sugar-coat it.

                                                                Angelina but he won't think it's the wrong way to go

                                                                Yes, otherwise it would be illogical behaviour 🤣
                                                                You have as well the right to see it differently as the right thing to do.

                                                                  a_father I'm not sure about Daniel. There are man who love the chastity belt more than the girl.... Sorry @Sara2001, but you should talk about this

                                                                  As far as I know he definitely loves @Sara2001 as person as she is.
                                                                  And they continue talking about everything. More than I have done in my past but I am improving 😀

                                                                    a_father I'm sure nothing of this had happend, if @Angelina's mother would be still present.

                                                                    I am not sure. i have my own not nice experience with my mother and see it similar as @Angelina.

                                                                      a_father This is the reason, why I have problems believing things I read here. Parents must always have in mind, that children become adults and exacly these children later demand accountability from them.

                                                                      Daddy, why r u so boring?

                                                                          Max9

                                                                          Well, the experience of an orgasm might really be the beginning of a girl to discover her slutty side

                                                                          What is a "slutty side" and how does an orgasm "start" this?

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                                                                              Foxies

                                                                              But clearly it happens within the law, as several poor girls here will testify.

                                                                              I don't think this happens within the law, most of the cases here are secret from the public, and remain secret only because of fear of the consequences if action was taken.