fear of orgasm: why?

Joh

Sara2001 and stop any support.

He can't stop it as long as you are apprenticeship or education.

And as wrote before, yes he will be disappointed first but if he sees in the long run you sister did fine and has a stable relation as she likes he may find out she is still his daughter which he loves.
For your relation I don't see any difference coming up. The only thing which would change is that Daniel is full in charge. I suppose Daniel will always listen to the recommendation of your father and his father but make the decision on his own.

a_father

Joh I'm not sure about Daniel. There are man who love the chastity belt more than the girl.... Sorry @Sara2001, but you should talk about this
with Daniel. Maybe after marriage and perhapse a pregnancy you can't wear the belt anymore. Can Daniel accept this? Otherwise he is not Mr. Right.

Joh

a_father I'm not sure about Daniel. There are man who love the chastity belt more than the girl.... Sorry @Sara2001, but you should talk about this

As far as I know he definitely loves @Sara2001 as person as she is.
And they continue talking about everything. More than I have done in my past but I am improving 😀

a_father

Joh In the case of @Angelina I fear it is abuse. And her father got two for one (@Angelina and her girlfriend). I'm sure nothing of this had happend, if @Angelina's mother would be still present. What would she say about this situation? Perhapse a question for @Angelina's father...

Angelina

a_father Now you depend on him, but in ten years...

I am still dependent in a way, because he is then probably my boss at work. 😂

a_father If he realises, that you are like an elephant and won't forget he may think about what he does.

i won't forget, but that's the point, of course i won't forget that against my will i have to wear these chastity devices, but i also won't forget that he has been raising me alone for 17 years and takes very loving care of me outside the topic of sex and masturbation 🙂

Foxies And thank God(s) that my partner and I are atheists! 🤣

I was going to write the same 🤣

Joh With this statement you give pedophiles the legitimacy to act unconscionably in their family.

that's why i say i know it's a very thin ice, on the other hand you're on thin ice with me when you claim to compare my situation to paedophilia

Joh I think with your almost 18 years you do not have the knowledge, the experience or the overview to simply deny it and know it better.

i am not the only person in the world who thinks like this, there are also many who are older and think exactly like this.
besides, i don't let myself be reduced to my age and also not to my chastity equipment.

Joh If he really loves you he will be angry first but after time he will accept it that it is the wrong way.

he will forgive me because he loves me that's true, but he won't think it's the wrong way to go

a_father and her girlfriend

that's actually not true either, my girlfriend is not restricted, she can have an orgasm at any time, but she's not allowed to get it from me. we could have done without the belt, but then we would have had almost no privacy.

a_father , if @Angelina's mother would be still present. What would she say about this situation? Perhapse a question for @Angelina's father...

i don't want to have anything more to do with my mother. she left me when i was a baby, i don't even know if she's still alive and it didn't care me, she's a stranger to me. incidentally, that's abuse for me.

Joh

a_father I'm sure nothing of this had happend, if @Angelina's mother would be still present.

I am not sure. i have my own not nice experience with my mother and see it similar as @Angelina.

Joh

Angelina on the other hand you're on thin ice with me when you claim to compare my situation to paedophilia

Did I? No I didn't!
I pointed out the consequences which rise up with your argument you use to break the law.

Angelina i am not the only person in the world who thinks like this,

I agree with that but it doesn't mater. You live in Germany and the German law applies. If you are in a different country it could be legal. This is all was I am talking about.

I do not reduce you to your age or your chastity equipment. I am trying to show you the impact of your view and that you are putting yourselves above the law.

I can follow your train of thought and understand why you compromise. But call it what it is and don't push some morality to legitimise it. That's just trying to sugar-coat it.

Joh

Angelina but he won't think it's the wrong way to go

Yes, otherwise it would be illogical behaviour 🤣
You have as well the right to see it differently as the right thing to do.

Angelina

Joh I agree with that but it doesn't mater. You live in Germany and the German law applies. If you are in a different country it could be legal. This is all was I am talking about.

and i live in my father's house and there our family laws apply, that's what i mean when i say that there can be differences between my behaviour in public (according to the german laws) and my behaviour in PRIVATE.

Joh and don't push some morality to legitimise it.

it is quite simple, his house has its rules. if i own a house later, my house has my rules. I can discuss everything with my father (and I do it very often), but he makes the final decision.

Christine Daddy, why r u so boring?

😂

a_father when the children of today make public what has happened to them.

i'm trying to ask in a different way, what exactly do i get out of it ? i'm not a person who seeks revenge

Christine

a_father This is the reason, why I have problems believing things I read here. Parents must always have in mind, that children become adults and exacly these children later demand accountability from them.

Daddy, why r u so boring?

a_father

Christine Well, the way you act at the moment ensures, you'll never have responsibility for children, because you'll never have some. So you'll never have to think about what I write here.

mekekelo

Max9

Well, the experience of an orgasm might really be the beginning of a girl to discover her slutty side

What is a "slutty side" and how does an orgasm "start" this?

Max9

mekekelo Well, I think we all have hobbies or sides of our personality that we do discover by the time.

mekekelo

Foxies

But clearly it happens within the law, as several poor girls here will testify.

I don't think this happens within the law, most of the cases here are secret from the public, and remain secret only because of fear of the consequences if action was taken.

a_father

mekekelo And we may read about it in some years in newspaper, when the children of today make public what has happened to them. Good luck for the parents.

a_father

Angelina What, if your girfriend breaks with you and makes it public? What, if you have other problems with your father in future? The safest thing about the future is that it hasn't happened yet. What you take for granted today may no longer apply in the future. When I try to look back at myself at the age of 17, I find that many things have changed my mind.
Maybe you need to protect your own daughter from your father. In such a case, you will always prefer your own child to the father

Joh

Angelina and i live in my father's house and there our family laws apply, that's what i mean when i say that there can be differences between my behaviour in public (according to the german laws) and my behaviour in PRIVATE.

Yes, I know and I know you accepted it. But this was not the point. Your family rules can never be an excuse to break the law which applies to you. In worst case you have to face the consequences.

Angelina

a_father

i don't know what will happen in the future, i can roughly plan my future, but of course i have to make the decision based on the current situation and acting differently now would do me more harm than good.

a_father Maybe you need to protect your own daughter from your father. In such a case, you will always prefer your own child to the father

my father does not have to interfere in the upbringing of my children, no matter what he thinks of my way of upbringing.

Joh Your family rules can never be an excuse to break the law which applies to you.

i disagree, i'll give you an example. my father has the right under german law to tell me who i can date until i'm 18, that means he can tell me that i can't date camryn anymore, but at the same time it's illegal for him to use a chastity belt to allow dating but stop me from having sex. it makes absolutely no sense why one is legal and the other isn't and as long as there are major contradictions at this point, it's not acceptable. and to be clear, this is not an argument for the belt, it is only about the contradiction in the law that is unacceptable.

Vanessa

Ines it would add more pressure to the boiler, so he will face a lioness later

I agree!😉

Ines It avoids we arrive pure for our loved man, (and he does not deserve it) , it drives to a selfish and brat behavior ( I want it so I have to get it, when we must await calmly to achieve some things), it will drive us to bad behavior ( and in this sense all my friends and girls here say the same, orgasms are very pleasurable and addictive).

I don't agree about the fact it always have such impact(it can,but far from always be the case),but I understand your logic.

Ines my sister, (for use a example in my home), is failing as woman, firstly to herself.

Which doesn't mean she would not have a happy life and marriage.

Sara2001 She hates her equipment more than I do, but she would never set her free access to her private parts above our family.

Same for several of us here.

Sara2001 We are all very loving and close. We all take care of each other

Necessary for wearing it reluctantly,I think.

HHelen

It doesn't necessarily become excessive.I think it is pretty rare.

HHelen

Vanessa It doesn't necessarily become excessive.I think it is pretty rare.

Not necessary, but she shouldn't be allowed when she wants it.

Raziel Similar to how kids want more candy after trying it for the first time

And they can't eat candies all the time.

Vanessa

HHelen Not necessary, but she shouldn't be allowed when she wants it.

Which is not easy,and wouldn't mean she would do it excessively,even if she can.

By the way,have you started to reduce it at night,too?

a_father

Angelina You are wrong. He hasn't the right to tell who you can date and who not. You are 17, so he even can't stop you dating a 60 year old man. If he told you that, it's a lie.

Joh

Angelina my father has the right under german law to tell me who i can date until i'm 18

I confirm @a_father statement. You father can do it only "in the case of obvious endangerment of the child's well-being".
Which should not be a reason for a ban:
A different nationality, a different faith, a higher/lower standard of living, same-sex love and close relatives. Your relation with Camryn counts already as a close relative and it seen as an important part for your mental health and development.

Angelina it makes absolutely no sense why one is legal and the other isn't and as long as there are major contradictions at this point, it's not acceptable. and to be clear, this is not an argument for the belt, it is only about the contradiction in the law that is unacceptable.

Whit cleared it their is no contradiction. Are you now able to accept the law?

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