Daphne's dilemma

gwen I appreciate the thoughtful responses, but I'm my intent was mostly to be silly

I know

gwen I enjoy the juxtaposition of invoking 'be a man' to encourage men to be less strict in their masculine presentation.

Yes, that's very paradox, but that was exactly the same when women started wearkng pants... it also was about embrackng themselves, where the pamts were a 100% male-only clothing to wear. That's why people did have weird lookw at them ... just like they still look at a hairy fat man wearing a princes costume and a pink tutu. Today they are called sexists fore having been like that.

gwen but I'm my intent was mostly to be silly. I enjoy the juxtaposition of invoking 'be a man' to encourage men to be less strict in their masculine presentation.

I did get your intent from the beginning (and see it also in your way) and just used it to my advantage Most of the time I just wait for the right moment to post something (if I'm not to lazy )

Max9 Actually it has nothing to do with catholicism, only with conservatism.

i know and let me say in all things economic and patriotism i have a great preference for conservatives but i think some things should be made more modern (that's where my liberal side comes up)

Max9 Today they are called sexists fore having been like that.

and at some point people will be called sexists who want to forbid men to wear a dress

Angelina and at some point people will be called sexists who want to forbid men to wear a dress

That's true, but there's no point in being the first to wear one when you actually don't want to wear one.

Max9 That's true, but there's no point in being the first to wear one when you actually don't want to wear one.

of course, it should be men who want it too

Kurt If you look some centuries back, there you can see that is also possible for men to wear more different kind of clothes, if they are politician.

Which clothes?

Max9 there's no point in being the first to wear one when you actually don't want to wear one.

Of course.

Vanessa Which clothes?

What have I done More work for me
Perhaps I did write this post, so it sounds like a bit to absolute. My bad or you just want to "provoke" me a little (in a playful sense) . Nevertheless I want to correct my post a little and give some examples.
Here are some examples for clothes of the last centuries 1, 2 and 3. In the last you can see they wore more colorful clothes like they do today, e.g. this.
I know my post sounded a bit like complaining, but this was not my intention. Fashion changes over time and know we life in a time where we have access to so many things, but sometimes I think we are limiting ourselves. Look like how buildings looked in the 19th century and how they look today. Every time I see such buildings, I think that the modern architects only play Minecraft in university and don't know anymore how to use angle that are not only 90°.

Again don't take this to seriously and for more historic facts @Ines is the expert ;-)

Kurt

interesting list, thanks for your effort

but i think we can agree that everyone should wear what he/she wants and what suits the occasion.

Kurt What have I done More work for me

Anyway,thank you for the examples,it is interesting.

I agree that modern buildings look way worse...

Angelina we can agree that everyone should wear what he/she wants and what suits the occasion.

I agree.

Vanessa I agree that modern buildings look way worse...

that's right, i also have the feeling that the architects used to put a lot more effort into it earlier.

Vanessa Maybe to do it more quickly,and with less space...

that could be, today everything is much more built up

Daphne

How do you manage it?

Daphne

Good!

Daphne I'd say yes but you'd also need a keyholder.

Daphne

Daphne In that case why isn't KH strict enough?