Daphne's dilemma

Angelina

Daphne Keyholder asked me to ask here though

ok and the answer (at least from me), is that it is the keyholder's job, but maybe other users have ideas.

Vanessa

I think so,too.

Daphne

It's been a while, thought I've give a small update.

I've been very much still been locked since the last time, it's very much 24/7. And I've been doing well with it despite some struggles and ofcourse frustrations haha

Angelina

Daphne

i'm glad you're sticking it out and achieving your goal, even if it is of course difficult. good luck in the future. 😃

Vanessa

Daphne And I've been doing well with it despite some struggles and ofcourse frustrations haha

Logical.

But it seems you mainly appreciate it,so,good!🙂

carg

Daphne

I've read a few of your posts, and there are a few things that are not clear to me. This is probably rather personal, so I can fully understand if you don't want to answer. I'm just curious, and have little actual knowledge of these things.
You wrote you are a trans girl. Does that mean transgender (living like the other gender) of transsexual (physically transformed into the other gender)? If transsexual, I assume saying you are a girl means that you feel you are a girl, and not that you have the physical characteristics of a girl (but wish you were a boy)? I think in my country 22 (the age you introduced yourself with) would be young to already have gone through a sex operation and hormone therapy.
So for the belt, if transsexual you might have a male or she-male belt?

You mentioned you also wear thighbands, and before you had them, you were considering them continuously locked with only a padlock, no chain. To me that seems hardly possible to do 24/7, and now I read you have a 4 cm chain. Have you tried it for a while with only a padlock, or did you see it would not work from the beginning and chose a very short chain instead?

youdontknowme

carg If transsexual, I assume saying you are a girl means that you feel you are a girl, and not that you have the physical characteristics of a girl

Trans people (who are open about that) typically identify themselves as the gender they feel they should be, not the one corresponding to the body parts they have (or had around birth), so my assumption would be the same.

Angelina

youdontknowme

this is something i always get confused with, so if someone calls themselves a transwoman does that mean they see themselves as a woman but have male gender characteristics or vice versa?

youdontknowme

Angelina this is something i always get confused with, so if someone calls themselves a transwoman does that mean they see themselves as a woman but have male gender characteristics or vice versa?

The former. Basically, the idea is that a trans person is the gender that matches their feelings, they just looked like they were a different gender before they came out as trans.

Vanessa

Angelina

I agree I've sometimes troubles to know it too...

Daphne Regarding thigh bands, I'm wearing them 24/7 with a 4cm chain

Very short chain;is it enough to manage your daily activities?

Rina Chastity belt manufacturers like Fancy Steel or Access Denied markets it as "shemale" / "sissy" belt, which I don't like wording of their marketing, though.

Probably they name it this way as chastity belts are mainly marketed for fetishists.

Angelina

youdontknowme

thank you, i think i will still get confused often and so that there is no misunderstanding, here in the forum everyone is accepted by me as how he/she feels about him/herself. i only ask because it can be difficult with technical questions, because a transwoman can hardly wear the same belt as i do. 😉

Daphne To answer I'm born male but identify as a girl

then you are a woman for me, but thanks for the explanation 🙂

Rina about belt specifically designed for transgenders.

i wonder where the difference to classic men's/women's belts should be. ?

Daphne

To answer I'm born male but identify as a girl, and i use a male belt/cage for now.

Regarding thigh bands, I'm wearing them 24/7 with a 4cm chain

Rina

Daphne Regarding thigh bands, I'm wearing them 24/7 with a 4cm chain

That sounds very restrictive… And 4cm seems to be too short. Do you get any breaks? Keeping thigh bands on 24/7 might not be good for your health.

I appreciate your devotion but keep in mind that your health is the priority.

Daphne i use a male belt/cage for now.

Which brand of belt (Not a cage) do you use? I want some recommendation, and as trans I feel you would have better knowledge about belt specifically designed for transgenders.

DraxenZ

Daphne Have you found anyone to help with that yet by chance?

Daphne

DraxenZ

Not yet actually

youdontknowme

Angelina I had a lot to learn the first time a person I was socializing with came out as trans as well. As an advocate for gender blindness and radically equal rights, I had a hard time understanding why a person would want to be defined by their gender.

Angelina i wonder where the difference to classic men's/women's belts should be. ?

Many manufacturers of chastity belts have some product line aimed primarily at crossdressing men that may well be suitable for male-to-female transgender people. Neosteel calls it the she-male line, for example. Those typically feature the penis tube of the male belt, but the crotch band has a flat profile similar to a female belt, so it does not leave a masculine shape (the crotch bulge caused by external genitalia) under clothes. Some of them go one step beyond, like FancySteel's Sissy belt, and have a crotch plate in a shape imitating what can only be described as a steel vulva.

carg

Angelina i wonder where the difference to classic men's/women's belts should be. ?

As far as I know transsexuals don't need specialized belts, since their body is made to match their identity, so a transsexual girl should be able use a female belt.
For other transgenders, cross-dressers and such, who want to appear feminine, there are specific she-male belts, that I believe aim to minimize the bulge of the male belt, giving more female outline.
I have not heard of the opposite, for women who want to have a man's bulge, but there might be belts with an external tube that could also fit a woman's anatomy? Or just put a rolled-up sock in their panties over a female belt?

Rina

Angelina i wonder where the difference to classic men's/women's belts should be. ?

Their design is bit different, for example, MySteel Transformation belt looks more like female belt than male belt, with design that is intended to reduce "bulging". Fancy Steel makes it obviously different with male belt, with design that hides "bulge" and give more feminine shape when it comes to covering private parts. (So it would also serve as "tucking" device that prevent genital from bulging)

Chastity belt manufacturers like Fancy Steel or Access Denied markets it as "shemale" / "sissy" belt, which I don't like wording of their marketing, though.

carg As far as I know transgenders don't need specialized belts,

I didn't mean that a belt intended for transgenders, but ones that may be designed more friendly for pre-op MTF transgenders. Like said above about design difference, pre-op (Before SRS / GRS) transgenders may benefit using such belts. Post-op would have no problem using female belt, though.

Angelina

youdontknowme

thank you for the explanations 🙂

carg since their body is made to match their identity, so a transgender girl should be able use a female belt.

but not every transgender person has already had surgery.

Rina

so in a nutshell, can we say that transgender belts are built for the biological gender but are visually designed according to the identitary gender (sorry i don't know how to put it better)?

youdontknowme

carg Those are not the common definition of transgender or transsexual. Transgender and transsexual are fairly hard to distinguish, the way I understand it, transsexuality is pretty much the underlying biological phenomenon (the genitals developed one way, the brain another), whereas transgender is the mental state of considering oneself a different gender identity than the genitals point towards. But I am no expert and may be mistaken on that. But between sex and gender, sex is always the biological/physical part and gender the social one, which does not align with your definition.

carg I have not heard of the opposite, for women who want to have a man's bulge, but there might be belts with an external tube that could also fit a woman's anatomy? Or just put a rolled-up sock in their panties over a female belt?

There are actual items called "packers" that can be placed in underwear to give the lower body a more masculine shape, ranging from cloth cups to silicone penis replicas. Though right now my imagination is running a bit wild... some belts have attachments for a strap-on dildo, and I am kinda imagining a flaccid strap-on now.

carg

youdontknowme Those are not the common definition of transgender or transsexual.

Oops, I think I've mixed the two up. According to Wikipedia: "Some transgender people who desire medical assistance to transition from one sex to another identify as transsexual."
My bad for not first checking what I thought I knew.
And yes, there is a lot of differentiation and borderlines, so my definitions were simplified to make it easier to talk about types of belt.
18-11: corrected my mixup in my previous images to make them more understandable.

Rina

Angelina built for the biological gender but are visually designed according to the identitary gender

Well… that might be one that may explain it in easy way, since its visual design would align with MTF trans wearer’s gender identity!

Vanessa mainly marketed for fetishists

Yes and that makes it hard for me to be open about my interest in chastity belt, although my purpose would be far from fetish use for me

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