Jen Maybe by then the cheep belts will be good.
Maybe I just got lucky... but mine is solid, comfortable, and easily adjustable for width and length. I wasn't expecting it to be good, I thought I would just use it for training. But now I wear it all the time and I don't feel the need to upgrade at all. I was pleasantly surprised. :-)
Of course,it's her decision.
But she should be well informed about the pros and cons.
Jen Maybe by then the cheep belts will be good.
I doubt it.
Joh Maybe she will find a sponsor for the test.
My-Steel,or Neosteel, with the slogan "so good that even reluctant wearers turn into willingly one as soon as it is on"?
I guess you're lucky,but good it is fine for you!
Another reason to not buy another one.
Vanessa My-Steel,or Neosteel, with the slogan "so good that even reluctant wearers turn into willingly one as soon as it is on"?
Vanessa Another reason to not buy another one.
above all, it would be a complete waste of money. the belt is already there. maybe we should rather think about how @Jen can test it without her parents noticing.
Angelina above all, it would be a complete waste of money.
Right.
As long as the belt is locked,without the keys,it would be hard.It's why I suggest a clear agreement.
a_father Or she may end up with her mother as keyholder.
If she doesn't want it,not for long.Until the next cleaning break,or until she goes to a locksmith or to firemen.
Vanessa It's why I suggest a clear agreement.
I would suggest that too, but @Jen's parents and especially her mother don't seem very trustworthy on either point.
Vanessa Until the next cleaning break,or until she goes to a locksmith or to firemen.
right, but the question is what would be the consequences?
Sin Maybe I just got lucky... but mine is solid, comfortable, and easily adjustable for width and length. I wasn't expecting it to be good, I thought I would just use it for training. But now I wear it all the time and I don't feel the need to upgrade at all. I was pleasantly surprised. :-)
Well you are awesome. There is a certain amount of attention to detail and intelligence in getting the good fit that will keep someone from chaffing or urinating down her own leg...
Nah stuff that I'm never letting myself think I could be stuck by some agreement or consequences again. like knowing it can't happen is what makes it so it really can't happen. No bluffing -get help if needed- but because you will they have no power so doesn't happen in the first place.
Megan urinating down her own leg..
Does that have to go on the list makes sense you have to be careful but I didn't think it was that bad.
Sin My belt isn't as wide as some of the solid belts. I'd like to try one, I think they're sexy. :-)
it has a look. The thinner cable like ones you linked look like they will dig in a lot.
Jen Nah stuff that I'm never letting myself think I could be stuck by some agreement or consequences again. like knowing it can't happen is what makes it so it really can't happen. No bluffing -get help if needed- but because you will they have no power so doesn't happen in the first place.
sorry i didn't understand that (the individual words yes, but not the meaning of the sentences) 
It would be better if it was the case,sure,but not needed,as she could easily be free of the belt(it seems there would not be much consequences in her case).
Angelina right, but the question is what would be the consequences?
As she has refused with no consequences,I guess none.
Jen Nah stuff that I'm never letting myself think I could be stuck by some agreement or consequences again. like knowing it can't happen is what makes it so it really can't happen. No bluffing -get help if needed- but because you will they have no power so doesn't happen in the first place.
Sorry,but I don't understand what you meant...Can you explain it more?
Angelina
Vanessa
I know its bad. Sometimes I post it as is otherwise I'll just delete. Trying to write clearly what I'm thinking can make my thoughts race worse. Hope this is clearer...
I felt trapped at the beginning because I worried about the agreement and consequences too much. And yeah I thought about would it be better to just do it and avoid the argument - but then also worried about if they wouldn't let me out. At the time getting help from others also seemed to have too many consequences.
But completely ignoring the consequences made them go away - because they were only imagined things in my head.
So when Vanessa said if I want it off I could wait till a cleaning break or go to a locksmith and then Angelina mentioned consequences - my thoughts went back to the worry at the beginning. That isn't how it would be.
If I let someone have the keys they would know. If I properly demanded it comes off, then they would have to unlock it - because if they didn't I'd get help straight away and that could get difficult legally for them. And that is their consequence to deal with - not mine.
Jen If I properly demanded it comes off, then they would have to unlock it - because if they didn't I'd get help straight away and that could get difficult legally for them.
I aim to achieve kinda the opposite for myself. If I demand the belt comes off, I'm looking for, and need, a firm NO. Likewise, legal consequences for me if I broke the belt would be great!! I guess this is the a difference between a vow of chastity and a chastity belt. I don't just want not to have sex or to masturbate, I want to have no other option. In this way I get to make firm personal choices right now and to direct my own future as I want it to be.
Jen If I let someone have the keys they would know. If I properly demanded it comes off, then they would have to unlock it - because if they didn't I'd get help straight away and that could get difficult legally for them. And that is their consequence to deal with - not mine.
yes of course you come from a slightly different situation. sorry that i sometimes see a girl behind every belt who is not happy with it, but i think i can't help it. yes i understand you. but generally speaking i would still not wear the belt as long as your parents have the keys or prove to be a trustworthy key holder.
Jen So when Vanessa said if I want it off I could wait till a cleaning break or go to a locksmith and then Angelina mentioned consequences - my thoughts went back to the worry at the beginning. That isn't how it would be.
Sorry if our talk made you worry again.
But I still think it could work.
Jen If I properly demanded it comes off, then they would have to unlock it
It's what I mean.It should be very clear for them you've this right,and they must accept and respect it.
Yes but @Jen has not the same feelings and reason to wear it.
Angelina but generally speaking i would still not wear the belt as long as your parents have the keys or prove to be a trustworthy key holder.
Why,as there is many ways to be free of it,quickly,even in they don't respect the agreement(and the belt can be sent to the trash after it,as she would never accept it again if they betray their agreement)?
