punishment for arousal

Avery

Jen just like jeans do. I haven't worn mine the last week for that reason. Might try next time.

This time of year I wear bulky sweatshirts so I don't always zip my jeans all the way up. Especially while sitting in class. What a relief.

Jen

Avery hah nice, too hot for that here. No I meant to say haven't worn my belt - I can still get my jeans on

Avery

Jen hah nice, too hot for that here. No I meant to say haven't worn my belt - I can still get my jeans on

Ah. I envy you the coming Spring and Summer. I follow lots of Aussie runners on Instagram and all winter (here) long see these pictures of them on the beaches. Nice. Nothing like your beaches in Northeast US.

Vanessa

Avery I always know mine is there.

Me too...

Angelina i always notice the belt even when i am distracted. as soon as i move i notice it.

It think it is the case for most of us.

Angelina

Vanessa It think it is the case for most of us.

probably yes

shinydiamond77

Angelina why is it ok for you if a girl touches the breast but not ok if she touches the vagina.

Because it's a much more delicate and intimate part of the body. It is a very private area, and until the girl is older it should be also kept private from the girl too. (Not just the vagina like you wrote, but the entire vulva.)

Angelina i know stupid question but by touching the breasts a girl can stimulate herself and some can also orgasm.

Sure, but for me that doesn't justify a chastity bra. If she somehow learns to do it - oh well. At least she's still not touching down there.

Angelina good that you think it is wrong, it is wrong to force someone to wear it but the devices are not wrong in general.

They aren't wrong in general, but absolutely wrong for a teenager.

Sin

shinydiamond77 It is a very private area

PRIVACY: (noun) Freedom from interference or intrusion, the right "to be let alone". Each person has a sphere of existence and activity that properly belongs to that individual alone, where he or she should be free of constraint, coercion, and even uninvited observation.

Why is it offensive to you if a person has knowledge and understanding of their own body?

Angelina

shinydiamond77 Because it's a much more delicate and intimate part of the body. It is a very private area, and until the girl is older it should be also kept private from the girl too. (Not just the vagina like you wrote, but the entire vulva.)

yes, but i meant something different. they are both sexual objects, i'm not sure we can distinguish that much, at least in definition

shinydiamond77 Sure, but for me that doesn't justify a chastity bra. If she somehow learns to do it - oh well. At least she's still not touching down there.

then it's ok, I just want to note it

shinydiamond77 They aren't wrong in general, but absolutely wrong for a teenager.

even a teenager has boobs

Sara2001 Before I feared the chastity bra to much

i think i would have taken that risk or rather if i had been aroused it would have happened anyway.

Sin Then it would appear you disagree with both science and medicine.

but it is not a scientific or medical discussion. the topic of chastity belts (both voluntary and involuntary) is always about emotions.

shinydiamond77

Sin

Private (adjective):
... pertaining to or affecting a particular person or a small group of persons; individual; personal;
... confined to or intended only for the persons immediately concerned; confidential;
... removed from or out of public view or knowledge; secret;
... not open or accessible to the general public;
... solitary; secluded;
... intimate; most personal;

What's your point? Maybe next time try looking up the word that you actually quoted?

Sin Why is it offensive to you if a person has knowledge and understanding of their own body?

Offensive? Where did that come from?

I have nothing against a girl's knowledge and understanding of a her own body, but if you're suggesting that letting her look or touch down there on a whim without a reason, just whenever she feels like it, would somehow give her knowledge and understanding, then I have to disagree.

Sara2001

Angelina that's why i specifically mentioned the time before your relationship,

Before I feared the chastity bra to much.

gwen I have also achieved orgasms this way. It always took quite a bit longer than genital stimulation, and the orgasm was not as intense, but it did happen on occasion.

That's what I have read, too. Thank you for the confirmation.

Vanessa Surprisingly,it seems it varies a lot for everyone,based on what I read here...

Problem no. 1, I would need a vibrator to try.
It also feels like cheating for me.

Vanessa

Sara2001 Before I feared the chastity bra to much.

You avoided it because you feared to be caught and had to wear one?

However,your sister was never caught doing it and had to wear one,even now she's single again...Do you know why it was not the case for you?

Angelina if i had been aroused it would have happened anyway.

I agree,wth a chastity belt,but no chastity bra,we would try it.

I still try,if possible,even if with no success...

youdontknowme

shinydiamond77 Private (adjective):
... pertaining to or affecting a particular person or a small group of persons; individual; personal;
... confined to or intended only for the persons immediately concerned; confidential;
... removed from or out of public view or knowledge; secret;
... not open or accessible to the general public;
... solitary; secluded;
... intimate; most personal;

All of those imply that it is OK for the person themself to engage with it, but not random strangers. Which of these definitions includes depriving the owner themself of the subject?

Sin

shinydiamond77 What's your point? Maybe next time try looking up the word that you actually quoted?

WTF do you think I just did? The point is that your child's private parts are hers and hers alone. As you kindly pointed out, pertaining to or affecting a particular person... individual; personal

Your child's genitalia is not your personal plaything.

shinydiamond77 if you're suggesting that letting her look or touch down there on a whim without a reason, just whenever she feels like it, would somehow give her knowledge and understanding, then I would disagree.

Then it would appear you disagree with both science and medicine.

Avery

shinydiamond77 I have nothing against a girl's knowledge and understanding of a her own body, but if you're suggesting that letting her look or touch down there on a whim without a reason, just whenever she feels like it, would somehow give her knowledge and understanding, then I have to disagree.

That's how I learned. And I've been testing out with straight As ever since.

shinydiamond77

Sin WTF do you think I just did? The point is that your child's private parts are hers and hers alone. As you kindly pointed out, pertaining to or affecting a particular person... individual; personal

Your child's genitalia is not your personal plaything.

They are not my plaything, they aren't anyone's plaything, and at her age they shouldn't be her playthings either.

Sin Then it would appear you disagree with both science and medicine

Disagree on what, specifically?

Avery That's how I learned. And I've been testing out with straight As ever since.

Good for you. But I think that those lessons should not be learned outside of bath time, as she can look and touch to be able clean there, so there's time for her to learn whatever she wants down there. It's reasonable to let her be alone naked in the shower, but not much else.

Angelina yes, but i meant something different. they are both sexual objects, i'm not sure we can distinguish that much, at least in definition

Sure, but it's not about the parts just being sexual. It's the combination of private, sexual, and safe.

Angelina even a teenager has boobs

Let her have them then, without a huge metal thing attached.

shinydiamond77

Sin Then it would appear you disagree with both science and medicine.

I think I know what you mean, and no, science and medicine are not really relevant here. Let me give you an analogy.

Science and medicine is pretty clear on why periods happen, and that they're a normal and healthy part of women's life. But it's still necessary to wear a pad or a tampon, no matter how healthy it is to have a period.

Same thing with a girl touching herself. It might be healthy and normal for her to do so, according to science and medicine, and is a normal part of growing up. But it's still necessary to prevent her from doing this, no matter how healthy it is,for reasons I have explained many times already.

Also, she was born deaf, but even though deaf people can learn to sign and have a healthy and normal life, I decided that cochlear implants would be better for her. You're not going to say that it's disagreeing with science and medicine to give her hearing instead of remaining naturally deaf, right? Or accuse me of making her ears my personal plaything? There are some deaf people who would, by the way. They think that deaf people must stay deaf and remain in deaf communities instead. I have gotten hate from those types before, insults mixed with unsound arguments about deafness not being a disability, about how selfish I am for not letting my daughter choose to be deaf until she's grown up, dictionary definitions that try to prove their point, and other similar nonsense.

Does that remind you of anyone?

Sara2001

Angelina i think i would have taken that risk or rather if i had been aroused it would have happened anyway.

It takes really long to get to the point and my door can't be locked from the inside. I think I had to much of thinking time when I played with them, so out of fear, I never went the final step. If I would have ever get caught, I would have bin in serious trouble for playing with myself and for lying/holding back important information. It was definitely to risky for me.

Vanessa You avoided it because you feared to be caught and had to wear one?

Yes

Vanessa However,your sister was never caught doing it and had to wear one,even now she's single again...Do you know why it was not the case for you?

Because she was caught playing with herself by classmates at the school toilet before sports class. That's why she had to change the school, too.

Angelina

Vanessa I agree,wth a chastity belt,but no chastity bra,we would try it.

if i had this ability like @Sara2001 it would happen without the bra and already because it would be the last chance to get at least some kind of orgasm.

Angelina

Sara2001 It takes really long to get to the point and my door can't be locked from the inside. I think I had to much of thinking time when I played with them, so out of fear, I never went the final step. If I would have ever get caught, I would have bin in serious trouble for playing with myself and for lying/holding back important information. It was definitely to risky for me.

ok, if it took you a long time i can understand that. you would have needed a longer period of time in which you could really be sure that you would not be caught and yes i also understand that the risk was very high.

Vanessa

Sara2001 Yes

Understandable.

Sara2001 Because she was caught playing with herself

Yes,but it was because she was free of the chastity belt,right?Not related to a chastity bra,I think.

Except if it is too used as a part of her punishment.

cham-ed does that mean it can be locked from the outside? And if so are you ever locked in?

Good question.

shinydiamond77

Sara2001 Because she was caught playing with herself by classmates at the school toilet before sports class. That's why she had to change the school, too.

I'm sorry this happened to your sister, and I don't want to put any blame on her, but, with little context I've seen, I have to say that this is exactly something only a belt would have prevented. It's not like she didn't know that it's a bad idea to do it in a school bathroom - I don't think there's anything your parents could have said to her beforehand that would stop her from doing it, because in that moment she was simply acting on the urges.

It's a good example of why I think girls should wear a belt until old enough.

cham-ed

Angelina my door can't be locked from the inside
does that mean it can be locked from the outside? And if so are you ever locked in?

Angelina

cham-ed

I think you made a mistake when you quote it. 😉

Sara2001

cham-ed Yes, my door can be locked from the outside but not from the inside.

Vanessa Yes,but it was because she was free of the chastity belt,right?Not related to a chastity bra,I think.

Except if it is too used as a part of her punishment.

My father decided that she is not responsible enough, so he decided as consequences of her misbehaviour, her sexually needs to be more restricted. It was not really a punishment but a consequence.

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