Is Fancy-Steel a viable option for secure long time wear

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I find it somewhat hard to believe that the FS Advanced belt even exists in non-prototype stage, let alone that someone uses it as a “serious” 24/7 chastity belt.

Last week FS's product page had photo of unassembked PCB of the thing, which I cannot find now. From that it was quite obvious that the “high power locking servo motors” are some kind of miniature RC PPM servos (well, in fact servo motor does not make much sense for this application anyway), then there is transformer and probably slightly over-spec'd NMOS for the shock part and footprint for some kind of castellated SoM (probably something ESP32 based). What was remarkably missing from the board was any kind of power management, which leads me to assume that the SoM used includes LiIon PMIC (AXP192?). It very much gives the vibe of modules from aliexpress slapped together.

Another thing is the manual which you can download from the FS site, which shows that:

The thing has mechanical power switch that protrudes inside the shield and the construction of that switch alone as seen on the photo is anything but waterproof and probably cannot be made waterproof by any simple modifications.
It communicates only through wifi, either by being an AP (what is it with various IoT crap working this way? just why?) or by connecting to exactly one configured AP as a STA. Which is not exactly useful when wearer wears it during the day and moves around and is not only in their house for remote play session.
The mode is selected by spatial orientation of the belt when it boots.
There is exposed reset button on the left side of the shield. That can be pressed by anyone and I would not be surprised if it also does full cold boot of the SoM => wearer can switch modes by pressing that button while assuming the right position.
there is unique build of the control application for each belt. You can paint that as security feature anyway you want and it will still be a huge security red flag.

Also it seems that it does not include any kind of sensors. With the price of the thing adding ToF distance sensor behind the shield and pressure sensitive resistor somewhere along the waist band would be insignificant. Well one could even integrate optical heart rate monitor somewhere on the thing.

youdontknowme

6373e6b2 what is it with various IoT crap working this way? just why?

You said it yourself. To only use WiFi. You cannot very well enter your WiFi keys on the device itself when the only Input you have are one or two buttons and the power line. So you need something that you can connect to before you enter your credentials, and since you already need to support WiFi to connect to the internet without a separate base station, just using a different type of WiFi network is a fairly straightforward solution.

Rina

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6373e6b2 It very much gives the vibe of modules from aliexpress slapped together.

Basics of FS Advanced Chastity belt would be able to be built by anyone with knowledge about programming Arduino boards. Probably even I can build basic version of it myself if I could do metal works and resources. It's not somethng "advanced" at all, just a glorified programmable board I guess. (You can build any IoT devices with programmable boards with wireless connection.)

6373e6b2 The thing has mechanical power switch that protrudes inside the shield and the construction of that switch alone as seen on the photo is anything but waterproof and probably cannot be made waterproof by any simple modifications.

This is what I'm concerned the most, I'm for sure that water damage of small scale won't cause any visible damages for short term, but for a long term, it defnitely causes damages or even breaks the device. Imagine if all of sudden PCB breaks down due to water damage not addressed for long term and belt is locked. It would be the worst nightmare.

6373e6b2 There is exposed reset button on the left side of the shield. That can be pressed by anyone and I would not be surprised if it also does full cold boot of the SoM => wearer can switch modes by pressing that button while assuming the right position.

I'm not sure what that button would do to locking mechanism. Also according to manual there's one button on center of the belt, and I'm not sure what would it do, too.

I can find a manual here, when I browsed Fancy Steel website. It says "network reset" but I'm not sure what it realy does. I guess maybe resetting whole system? Or deleting remembered network connections? Assuming that she's in residence, or anywhere in college, unless belt has a celluar functions, it won't be able to connect to Wifi independently as most of college wifi routers are security enabled, so it is unlikely to be able to be used remotely in that far distance.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/vr3115w2rfimge6/FS%20Advanced%20Chastity%20Belt%20Guide.pdf?dl=0

6373e6b2 there is unique build of the control application for each belt. You can paint that as security feature anyway you want and it will still be a huge security red flag.

This is really vulnerable to social engineering, someone can convince to install remote access trojans on phones, espeically on android phones (I know even anydesk can remotely control a phone). In addition, how many security enhancements would a small chastity belt company would be able to implement compared to companies that professionally make IoT devices?

Laura

Angelina I saw the belt and actually thought that there was also a built-in GPS function

https://unwedchastity.org/d/488-chastity-belt-with-gps-tracker

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Laura I though about including that in my wall-of-text post but in the end did not and apparently I didn't write that even in the refereced thread.

There is a reason why AirTags and such things use weird-ass protocol that is built around opportunistics contacts with nearby devices. GPS, or well, any kind of GNSS, receiver is inherently power hungry and just turning it off for some kind of sleep mode does not save energy as long as you want multiple location samples per day. Uplinking that data is another issue. Some kind of PLMN modem would look like solution, but also power hungry. And then: chastity belt involves a lot of stainless steel and all this involves RF with as little of SNR margin as possible, so well, no, it would not work.

Laura

CharInChastity Mainly so they could lock and unlock me remotely when I go to college.

How could they lock you remotely?

CharInChastity

It can hold multiple networks. For now, one is my phones hot spot. One is my highschool network and one is home. The switches on the outside are really only used for set up. A little bit of silicone calk and they are water proofed. It’s not permanent and can be peeled off if needed.

Rina

CharInChastity For now, one is my phones hot spot

That literally drains a phone's battery and cause degradation of your phone's battery.

CharInChastity One is my highschool network and one is home

One at home is probably set up at the beginning, I guess highschool wifi hotspot isn't secure one (Like one you don't need a password) so it might automatically connect to it.

College hotspots, at least ones in my country needs to have PEAP credentials which is complicated to set up. Which means it won't be able to even automatically connect to it.

Besides technical aspects, I have lots of concerns based on your accounts about what you've gone through.

No matter what, electroshock is intended only for kink plays between consenting adults in BDSM relationship, not as a regular punishment for minors. I'm very concerned about your parents' behavior cause their behavior is not normal at all. Like drugging someone into chastity belt, using electroshock... what you've said here are abuse, and it doesn't become not an abuse because you think it is not.

I'm not from some religious family or something, but I'm from average Asian family. So I don't really know about how dynamics in religious families work, but I know somewhat about conservative families (ie my relatives). Even they would think electroshock as a punishment for kids is not normal at all.

Ines

Rina Like drugging someone into chastity belt, using electroshock... what you've said here are abuse, and it doesn't become not an abuse because you think it is not.

Exact.

Rina So I don't really know about how dynamics in religious families work, but I know somewhat about conservative families (ie my relatives).

Same for me.

Angelina

CharInChastity Yes, but they can also track my phone so it’s not a big deal. They don’t watch everywhere I go.

nevertheless, the belt is certainly an interesting device, such a technique is not often seen in this area, but i still think such a device should not be used in a parent-child relationship.

Rina I'm not from some religious family or something, but I'm from average Asian family. So I don't really know about how dynamics in religious families work, but I know somewhat about conservative families (ie my relatives). Even they would think electroshock as a punishment for kids is not normal at all.

i agree with you, even my father wouldn't do that because he would never want to cause me physical pain. i also find the idea kind of scary, as i have read the electric shocks can be given without any warning. the idea of being locked up in something that can give me electric shocks at any moment would drive me crazy

bdsamm

Avery Have you seen the new Fancy Steel P1 belt. Looks great. https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0332/4457/products/Womansp1_1_1024x1024.jpg?v=1668937671

youdontknowme

bdsamm They seem too "busy"

Especially those little nipple domes in the middle of the cup. Not exactly modest.

bdsamm Have you seen the new Fancy Steel P1 belt. Looks great. https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0332/4457/products/Womansp1_1_1024x1024.jpg?v=1668937671

Lockwood brand. Sounds like it would be more appropriate to use those locks on a male device. Looking at some other belts of theirs, they seem to be doing just that, though. An Assa Abloy lock that is not too small - seems like a great choice for security.

Avery

bdsamm Have you seen the new Fancy Steel P1 belt. Looks great.

I had not seen that. US $1000 looking at the website. They have a "jock strap design, parting the cables over the buttocks". Just wonder if it's completely comfy sitting in a hard seat. I'd still like the cable down the bum crack design I think. I get a chuckle out of the pussy plug and the clit teaser advertised right there on the page. Wider labia opening is good, tho mine aren't particularly puffy.

Renita

bdsamm Looks great

Your crotch area no longer looks feminine.

bdsamm

Avery The cables or chains over the butt are OK if a person has a pretty well padded butt. Otherwise not so good. The lady I gave a Neosteel Classic with V chains told me the chains left an impression on the seat of her office chair. That would be an interesting "panty line".

CharInChastity

Avery I feel like I always have a wedgie but over the years I have gotten used to it. The v chain design is better when you want to poop. The bar up bum crack like mine is always a mess for pooping, but it does prevent anal sex. It always needs a bidet (which is not comon in usa)

bdsamm

Abby82 It sounds like they covered about everything. I hope to see reviews from an actual wearer. Because of the price tag, that may be awhile. Now if I just had a lady to lock it on. 😋

bdsamm

Abby82 Did you wear your Carrara much? I have always thought those were fantastic belts. But hard to get, long delivery, and last but not least, a lot of steel to put between a girls legs. But for sure excellent coverage.

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