Angelina oh it's plenty real. My girlfriend back in high school got kidnapped by them. I had graduated she didn't turn up for like 8 months year and wasn't free from the program for 2 years. By then obviously we had said goodbye already and she texted me on one home visit to say it was ok for me to move on 🙁
Never really talked to her after she got back she just kinda was a shell of herself and wouldn't do any of the things she liked, she was afraid to be happy seamed like. She went to some college a few years after in another state and we.lost touch. I was always very resentful from this.
A lot of kids are sent there for stuff like depression and they get traumatized by it. The philosophy of these places is to break you and rebuild you. A lot of the kids there kill themselves when they get out or become drug addicts. It really doesn't help anything and it a money making scheme I think. Some abusive parents like sending there kids there. I met a girl at my college who was at one (there's a lot of these places) and after she got out her relationship with her parents was pretty ruined
They couldn't talk to each other because of how much anger and resentment she had for her.mom.and dad and it would always end with her screaming at them
youdontknowme
It's technically legal in the us since the parent can sing away custodial rights to the child. The us never ratified the un children's rights treats and there's no federal laws about this until Paris Hilton got involved last year.
The police would Chase these kids down all the time as they tend to try to run away..they can even arrest you for trying to help a runaway as it's legally taking them from there gaurdian. They use kids of therapy to blame the kid for everything
I heard stories about girls who get sent who had emotional issues from being raped in childhood and the rape would be structure and sculpted in group tharapy to make them think it was there fault.
Lots super religious people work there. One place had stories of blasting fire and brimstone damnation preaching on repeat for 24/7 to the kids in solitary confinement room lol. It's like the religious zealots don't realize what century it is. I remember a lot of tramatic things from ym.program and mine was better and in a state that had a lot.of rules like big restrictions on solitary confinement and stuff like that I went to own after my girlfriend did cuz I was smoking weed to cope with her being gone.
Some things I saw, kid had staff sit on him to restrain him, kid almost died from suffocation. (A 7 year old foster girl died recently at a place from this)
Kid got shot with a razer for being a brat when they called the cops on him (cops in us tend to do stuff cuz they get away with it, and this was back in 2011 so there were not the same police practices and controversy as today)
Girls screaming every time I had to go to there dorm for "tharapy" (her office was in the lower floor of there dorm building), not sure what the screaming was about but not a very good environment for tharapy lol.
Other place I was at first for less time had orphaned kids just dumped there for years (one 16 year old had been there since she was 10, they barley got to go outside the building at all mostly just like once a month if they were good) tons of security doors cuz this girl from my highschool who was there and her roommate keep escaping lol. They also used the plastic handcuffs on kid to force them to go to group tharapy so that was fun (no, not really)
Oh and you HAVE to talk about past phycological trauma or they tell you you can't leave :/
Great environment for for kids who had a sexual abusive history.
Oh and the autistic kid who they sent back to his abusive family despite him trying to kill himself to escape and they were just like meh, child services took took long to get here, we can't wait another day the insurance ran out. Yeah kids could get given back to an abusive parent if the child services took too long to show up and there insurance ran out.
Saw this happen at a phych hospital too a girl was dragged out by her abusive father who she kept talking about raping her while screaming and crying for help.
Yeah the us healthcare system has been a flaming radioactive disaster for years. And I assume this is why our drug, prison, and murder rates are sky high
Oh and domestic abuse
.that too.
Rant over.

    Vanessa Or until marriage,like it is for us.

    yes, but then it can happen that a woman stays in the belt until she dies, scary idea or marries a man by force in order not to die as a virgin. 🙁

    Natescage

    Reading this makes me extremely sad, because I can see how lucky I am (despite the chastity belt). I hope all the children who had to go through this torture are feeling better now, but the psychological scars will probably never disappear.

      Natescage Custodial rights are not carte blanche to do whatever you want. That is why CPS exist. Human rights violations or crimes against your own children are still illegal if you are their legal guardian. But again, to get free, those kids would need to get contact to the outside world and find an adult in authority who believes them what kind of awfulness is going on there. So even though there are laws against child abuse, good luck making sure they are enforced.

        youdontknowme this
        Many "state inspections" are done by people who live in the area and don't want to anger to locals by shutting a facility down that provides money and jobs.
        Angelina and yeah I mentioned it partly because some girls feel chastity belt is so awful haha. But the cult that started this in the us, syannon, has a branch still active in Germany.

          Natescage Many "state inspections" are done by people who live in the area and don't want to anger to locals by shutting a facility down that provides money and jobs.

          And I would also believe that many authority figures in areas where those camps operate may also honestly believe that the abuse is better than the alternative, like gay kids being able to live as themselves.

          Natescage oh it's plenty real. My girlfriend back in high school got kidnapped by them...

          what.the.fuck

          Angelina I hope all the children who had to go through this torture are feeling better now,

          I'm pretty sure they're not.

            Natescage and yeah I mentioned it partly because some girls feel chastity belt is so awful haha. But the cult that started this in the us, syannon, has a branch still active in Germany.

            well, our laws against this are very good, almost too good. what my father is doing is not really legal either and i think if such things were to happen in germany, there would be a huge scandal.

            Max9 I'm pretty sure they're not.

            unfortunately i think so too, that's why i wrote that the psychological wounds will probably never heal completely. 🙁

            HHelen How about divorced or a single mom?

            Mom thinks they should treated as never married.

              Christine Mom thinks they should treated as never married.

              somehow i don't like this statement. i mean your marriage failed, but you had a reason why you got married. i don't think that divorced women should be considered like unmarried women because they have already had the experience of marriage.

                Angelina also because when someone is belted for preventing sex before marriage it doesn't actually make sense... because ... you already had been married and you already have had sex... that means you are not a virgin anymore and there's no virginity to protect. It only makes sense if you consider sexual activity out of a marriage to be wrong. But why shall it be wrong? Ok, maybe as a prove that you are a person who doesn't whore around, but ... idk ...
                To me, the actual problem with it is that you get divorced in the first place. Marriages are a holy bound in front of god, a pact for life and that lass forever, even when life is over. Ok, when you have given each other the promise but one person did act to be different in order to make cash, then you gave the promise to a non-existing person and the promise is obsolete. But when you're just like .... oh, he doesn't bring home anymore as much money as before or like oh, he got a bit lazy or fat or idk and I met a better one ... that's just ...

                  Max9

                  i agree with you completely on the first part. on the second part you seem to be getting a bit worked up. you can't control love, it's there or it's not. not everyone makes the promise to god (i won't) and for me marriage doesn't mean love until death, but the promise to try everything to make the marriage last until the end of life, but no one should be unhappily married.

                    Angelina Depends on whether your objective is to preserve virginity or to prevent unmarried sex. If the objective is the latter, then it only matters whether the person is married now, not whether they have been in the past. Same with widows.

                      Angelina for me marriage doesn't mean love until death, but the promise to try everything to make the marriage last until the end of life, but no one should be unhappily married.

                      Well said.

                      Angelina yes, but then it can happen that a woman stays in the belt until she dies, scary idea or marries a man by force in order not to die as a virgin. 🙁

                      Right,it would not be very good in such cases...

                      HHelen

                      As it would be a dystopie,I guess it would mean back in the chastity belt.

                      Angelina

                      It was meant about the wearing of chastity devices.

                      youdontknowme Depends on whether your objective is to preserve virginity or to prevent unmarried sex. If the objective is the latter, then it only matters whether the person is married now, not whether they have been in the past.

                      Right.

                        youdontknowme

                        i agree with you, but my answer was not really related to the goal of the belt, but only my opinion on the mother's statement.

                        Vanessa It was meant about the wearing of chastity devices.

                        I know I took the sentence out of context, but that was my intention, because this sentence is simply wrong (my opinion).

                        Vanessa it would mean back in the chastity belt

                        "It would mean" or "It would be mean"?