Avery I sincerely wish the time goes quickly for you.

yes, that will be, but i remain of good cheer 😃

JonesMacGyver

but this sounds less like a problem with the keys and more like problems with the belt in general.

      JonesMacGyver I take it that twice as thick as cheap means BlackEmperor. What exactly was the problem with metal fatigue? Snapped screw/rivet? Because in my experience the typical metal fatigue issue involves the central post in the locking mechanism and the thing just poping open. Funny thing is that the cheap chinese belts with the “high security lock” do not have this part that much overengineered, so this is not an issue.

        Snapped in 2 different places in the crotch plate. Twice at one end and once at the other.

        Forget the belt quality (which I think is good), what about when my back went out. Totally unpredictable.... (It was a first and hasn't happened again in 3 years)

        Just saying emergencies happen.

          JonesMacGyver Just saying emergencies happen.

          that's right, and apparently also brand belts that are poorly produced. i hope you find a good belt.

              Angelina the point is that you can have an emergency regardless of how good your belt is. You are probably somewhat too young to understand the physical issues of people that are ten to twelve years older than you, and well, while we do sports and random bad ideas, we are crunchy, old and what not.

                  6373e6b2

                  i understand the point and of course there should be a good emergency system. i just think the best system is of no use if you have problems with the belt.

                    a month later

                    My key is kept in a key lock box used to hold a key realtors use on for sale homes.
                    There’s a 4 digit code used to open it.
                    It just sits on our head board.

                    She grabs a key to take with her when we go on long trips.

                    Once we went somewhere and she forgot the key. We were going to make love (she was in the mood) and learned she left the key here.
                    She got satisfied and slept well. I just slept. Lol

                      Cb85 She got satisfied and slept well

                      Excellent!

                        6 months later

                        bdsamm As I have heard of several instances where forced opening was necessary, I think it would be great if you share your knowledge in detail how to break some common belts open. Can you illustrate how a good "Vice grips" look, where on the guard they have to be used, where and with what tool a "lock shackle" can be cut? We don't want skin to be hurt with the wrong tools or procedures. Thank You!

                            Damien in an emergency I kinda assume the lock could be broken like it's small and close - cutting would be a pain but it just doesn't look that strong

                              Damien

                              i suspect many things from my father's toolbox could break the belt or the lock, in case of emergency you can always call the emergency number

                                  Angelina A friend who knows about my belt said he surely could cut the band without hurting me if he can slip a thick piece of leather under it.
                                  So guess anything’s possible

                                      Sasha said he surely could cut the band without hurting me if he can slip a thick piece of leather under it.

                                      Leather not nearly safe enough imo.

                                          Jonas A sufficiently large piece of leather should protect the skin from heat and sparks during some very careful angle grinder work, but yeah, slips could still lead to injury. Or with jaws of life, it might provide some padding from the heavy tools.

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                                            Jonas Probably not ideal, but the risk vs wearing it against my will might be worth it.

                                                Sasha vs wearing it against my will

                                                Do you have such a risk?

                                                    Laura Not at all. Just a thought on the topic that came to mind

                                                      Sasha Probably not ideal, but the risk vs wearing it against my will might be worth it.

                                                      Far too great a health risk I think. Belt removal would need to be properly thought out and carried out. Will would have to wait in such a situation.

                                                        Sasha

                                                        I would just try to break through the lock, I think that is the safer way.

                                                          Damien I did not intend to say I kew a way to open any belt but all that I have seen in person could be removed easily with vise grips on the shackle protector or bolt cutters on the lock shackle. The radial lock on the tolly boy belts would be more difficult but still using tools to twist the lock would likely be successful. It is just a pin.
                                                          Of course in all cases the belt is severely damaged makig escape evident and requiring major repair or replacement.