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Sara2001 I accept the "panic" when it saves thousands and thousands of young girls from wearing a chastity belt against their will.

In this point I disagree a bit with you. I think that in the end, if the right social environment is created, the vast majority of girls would use the chastity belt, some because they believe that it is really the right thing to do, others because of fashion and some because the rest use it and do not want to be different.
I think that the forced use would be minimal, although I am sure that it would exist, in that you are right, and for this, as now, the authorities would be there, to deal with the abuses.

    Ines I don't think that this would ever happen. I think the overwhelming majority of girls would not like to wear it. In Germany they would think you are crazy if you would suggest this. Impossible to believe that there could be a situation where most girls want a chastity belt for themselves and that parents control their sexuality. This can't happen.

      Sara2001 I think the overwhelming majority of girls would not like to wear it.

      Neither I do, at least in short time. But the ways to achieve this are the subject of thread.

      Sara2001 In Germany they would think you are crazy if you would suggest this.

      Same here, but precisely how to achieve this is what is discussed here, even is a very hypothetical discussion.

      Sara2001 This can't happen.

      I will not use "can not happen". A single person with enough money and particular interest in achieve it, could change situation. I am talking about messages in TV Shows, Videoclips, Films, Fashion jewelry in a festival... but that a person with that interest and that amount of money arises is very unlikely

        Ines I think it's very likely that her career is over the day she advertise it.

          Sara2001
          No if she/he has enough money and power.
          I am talking about magnates, obviously with a broadcasting empire you can achieve a lot of things, maybe not in a week or a year, but if girls start to see a character in a serie, a videoclip...
          For example, TV channels in Spain have very few owners, one of them have a lot of channels in Italy too. If, for example, this man, who also has audiovisual content production companies, was interested in promoting its use, I am sure that perhaps not the majority, far from it, but he would popularize the belt.

            Ines Thankfully imposible. Please admit that you are in totall minority in civilised countries. Only in some backwoods and uncivilised countryes might exist part of girls with washed brains who will agree with you.

            • Ines replied to this.

              Ines
              If a rich, powerful, older man tries to make it happen, and the public catches wind of him being at the center of it, I reckon the result will be similar to what is was to some of Jeffrey Epstein's friends. The narrative of a dirty old man supporting child abuse would quickly be spun and it his reputation would suffer greatly.

              If anything, I could see a movement that at least present itself as grass roots, with young adults who voluntarily wear the belts as champions of it, wrapping it in a nice story to somewhat soften the ire of some vocal feminist groups, and emphasizing a wearer-in-charge mentality that has nothing to do with parents or partners holding the key. Celebrities and the likes would likely join in later, after the stuff has gone viral like one of those TikTok challenges.

              • Ines replied to this.

                Sara2001 Depends on the price. I accept the "panic" when it saves thousands and thousands of young girls from wearing a chastity belt against their will.

                sorry, I understand your approach but disagree. I don't think it will save a girl from being involuntarily in a belt, those parents won't be put off by that, on the contrary it makes these girls live in constant fear of being caught too

                Sara2001 Impossible to believe that there could be a situation where most girls want a chastity belt for themselves and that parents control their sexuality. This can't happen.

                Never say never, I'm making a comparison to the corona situation even if it's not appropriate. things happened that we never thought possible because a majority thought it was good for society. why shouldn't wearing a chastity belt be similar to wearing a mask. if the majority thinks a chastity belt makes sense for society, many will wear one, maybe it will even be prescribed by the state. I don't want it like that, just like with corona, but it can happen

                Kaja . Please admit that you are in totall minority in civilised countries.

                I not only admited it, but also I said that my hypothesis is very unlikely. 🤷🏻‍♀️
                I do not understand your reproach:

                Ines Neither I do, at least in short time.

                Ines even is a very hypothetical discussion.

                Ines but that a person with that interest and that amount of money arises is very unlikely

                I think that wear a chastity belt willingly is a good thing, but I do not live in other planet.

                Kaja Only in some backwoods and uncivilised countryes might exist part of girls with washed brains who will agree with you.

                Be careful, because I am always very respectful towards you... so be kind, and this is not your first warning. Here people come to stay in relaxed environment.

                youdontknowme If a rich, powerful, older man tries to make it happen, and the public catches wind of him being at the center of it, I reckon the result will be similar to what is was to some of Jeffrey Epstein's friends. The narrative of a dirty old man supporting child abuse would quickly be spun and it his reputation would suffer greatly.

                I think nobody is talking about childs and I am not talking about force to anyone.
                I NEVER talk about children and NEVER talk about forced usage, and this forum does not tolerate such behaviors.

                In any case, a musical group going to collect an award and showing in the photo call part of a belt with jewelry, a movie with protagonists with the belt, interviews in talk shows with users, articles in some women's magazine of housewives that they dress it...
                Nothing illegal, nothing disruptive, but it is creating a certain diffusion.

                youdontknowme If anything, I could see a movement that at least present itself as grass roots, with young adults who voluntarily wear the belts as champions of it, wrapping it in a nice story to somewhat soften the ire of some vocal feminist groups, and emphasizing a wearer-in-charge mentality that has nothing to do with parents or partners holding the key. Celebrities and the likes would likely join in later, after the stuff has gone viral like one of those TikTok challenges.

                I think we are talking about the same.

                  Avery I actually attended BYU (was raised LDS but am no longer practicing). Happy to directly address any BYU questions although I think you summarize it pretty well :-). Masturbation is definitely frowned on but not nearly to the extent of pre-marital sex (thus all the young marriages). I did not encounter anyone there in a chastity belt but the power of religious guilt alone is pretty effective in terms of influencing behavior...

                    Ines I get that you would never want unwilling wearers or minors in belts, but it feels like with a few people here, it is difficult to separate the physical item that is the belt from a keyholding arrangement that involves an authority figure of significant other taking charge of the wearer's sexuality whether they want it or not. But that is precisely the association we should avoid if we want to make lockable underpants more mainstream.

                    But even with grown-up daughters, I still believe an older gentleman, like most people with a media empire tend to be, taking a stand for the cause of locking up women young enough to be his daughters would provide ample ammunition to many feminist groups to rally against chastity. A viral trend that media companies pick up on (or pretend to pick up on) after it has already gained traction among youth would stand a much better chance.

                    • Ines replied to this.

                      youdontknowme

                      youdontknowme they want it or not

                      We will clean the forum totally, work is in process.

                      youdontknowme But that is precisely the association we should avoid if we want to make lockable underpants more mainstream.

                      Totally agree.

                      Here is more and more response to the feminist movement, not so much in my age, but yes, for example in that of my little sister, so if you wanted to do it, there you could start to get the acceptance of a certain narrative.
                      Little by little, subtly.
                      Recently, several media outlets here have echoed something called Christian Domestic Discipline, apparently it was known in the United States but not here, and, curiously, several television have done talk shows and given related news.
                      Is there any interest behind? I do not know, but the fact is that it has been publicized, there are mostly opinions against it, but some in favor and, most importantly, no one has said to stop talking about it, against or in favor of it.
                      This is the type of penetration I am referring to.

                      • Joh replied to this.

                        Ines Christian Domestic Discipline

                        And what can I understand by that?

                          Joh Christian Domestic Discipline is basically the kind of patriarchal family dynamics described in some families on this forum -- spanking, corner time, strict discipline on the wives, basically everything but the belting -- that is filtered through a heavily Christian form of patriarchy that determines the husband should be head of household and all other should obey. Rafael's family engages in something very close to CDD, and it sounds like Sara's does as well, though I'm not sure how much religion directly impacts it. But essentially, if the man is in charge and corporal punishment is used on wives and adult daughters and Jesus Christ is named as the purpose behind it, it's Christian Domestic Discipline.

                            Saintprudence Rafael's family engages in something very close to CDD, and it sounds like Sara's does as well

                            Thank your for the explanation.
                            Sara's relationship has nothing to do with Christian belief and I am not sure if Rafael's family has some connection to this. They are conservative but you can argue, Spain is Catholic influenced, it comes from that. I am not sure how important is it in their life.

                            Ines In any case, a musical group going to collect an award and showing in the photo call part of a belt with jewelry, a movie with protagonists with the belt, interviews in talk shows with users, articles in some women's magazine of housewives that they dress it..

                            that sounds like a good development, just to be able to talk about it openly, to be able to present it openly, that would help a lot of people who like to wear a belt. 🙂

                            Saintprudence Rafael's family engages in something very close to CDD, and it sounds like Sara's does as well, though I'm not sure how much religion directly impacts it.

                            well, you could say something similar about my father, but he is definitely not religious. i think jesus is being used as an excuse to defend one's own control and power, i can only advise such men to at least be open about it and not use god as an excuse.

                            Saintprudence Rafael's family engages in something very close to CDD,

                            He has never touched a woman, as far I saw in TV, beatings is a key in that.
                            In my family are somewhat conservative in some things, but we are liberal about others.

                            Bryan I actually attended BYU (was raised LDS but am no longer practicing). Happy to directly address any BYU questions although I think you summarize it pretty well :-). Masturbation is definitely frowned on but not nearly to the extent of pre-marital sex (thus all the young marriages). I did not encounter anyone there in a chastity belt but the power of religious guilt alone is pretty effective in terms of influencing behavior...

                            It is interesting for me to observe a society in which they actually practice chastity, that is willingly abstain from sex. Unlike this forum where the large majority - but not everyone - do not practice it, they are forced into a belt and that's what keeps them "chaste".

                            I observed the girls we ran against with great interest. They may be chaste but are definitely NOT old maids. They keep their bodies in good condition, are well made up and, in hot weather, ran and allowed themselves to be photographed in short shorts and bare midriffs, running gear, that is, not some sort of sexualized outfits.

                            The reality of a chaste life is far dififferent from the kind of patriarchal/matriarchal crap you read here where people seek to deliver their daughters intact to their future husnands by any means necessary.

                              Good shape, feminity and sports do not collide with chastity belts. Agree.