Why do you think masturbation is wrong?

Foxies

Addressing the original topic, I do not see masturbation as wrong. It is an activity that does little if any harm to others or their property. It can I suppose, like many other human activities, cause harm to the person doing it if they do it to the point where other activities of their lives are impacted, though I suspect this risk is overrated. Most activities done to excess can be harmful, to a greater or lesser degree. Masturbation is one more. I do think if there are partners, then the partner under certain circumstances could be impacted in a negatively emotional way.

In general, masturbation impacts no one other than the masturbator, and thus nobody else's opinion should matter. I say in general because one can always thing of extreme cases - for instance I would not be too keen on the pilot of the airplane as was in, masturbating instead of flying the damned plane! 🤣

youdontknowme

Foxies for instance I would not be too keen on the pilot of the airplane as was in, masturbating instead of flying the damned plane!

Either way he will have his hands on the stick.

Kaja

Foxies Good point!

Joh

Ines there are not medical evidences about any benefits of female masturbation.

Then there is certainly no medical evidence of a negative influence or effect when women masturbate.

Ines Relief sexual tension, strength vaginal area, sleep well... are not benefits, since they are small, exist other ways to achieve those, or are unnecessary in most of girls

What speaks in favour of this is the beautiful feeling, which is not achieved by other means.

Ines I share most of thinking of my uncle, but I think that exist another reason, it reinforces the path of behavior, setting and accomplishing the prohibition, it is obvious that all bad behaviors of a sexual nature move away from us.

Since it feels right for you, that's what you should do. I think that's good.

Kaja your parents use brainwashing.

I don't think so. I am convinced that @Ines is very capable of forming an independent opinion.
I was also brought up as a Christian. Nevertheless, I came to the conclusion that there is no God and I am now an atheist. Education may have some influence, but it doesn't have to.

Ines

Joh What speaks in favour of this is the beautiful feeling, which is not achieved by other means.

Making love with the right partner.

Ines

Joh Then there is certainly no medical evidence of a negative influence or effect when women masturbate.

Exactly.

Joh

Ines Making love with the right partner.

When you are 14 years old? 😉 🤣
It can't be a solution.
On the other side. If you develop your sexuality and you know your body and feelings this is an advantage when you are together with the right partner.

Ines

Joh When you are 14 years old? 😉 🤣

You should await. It is part of the nice! 😊

Angelina

Andrew I have a question for people who see masturbation as inappropriate behavior - why do you think so

if someone is single, i don't think masturbation is wrong, but i reject it in a marriage/relationship because i think it's disrespectful to the partner. sexual contacts should then only take place with the person i love

Kaja your parents use brainwashing.

no, I see it differently. Convincing someone of the family culture is not brainwashing, it is simply an inner moral attitude

Joh When you are 14 years old? 😉 🤣
It can't be a solution.

I don't actually find that funny, my girlfriend was also 14 when we met, so why shouldn't that be a valid argument?

Sara2001 I think that's a good summary. You believe it's wrong because you believe it's wrong.

well said, because with all due respect to science, i think we are talking about a purely subjective topic here. I respect all opinions, but please don't try to present the subjective opinion as objective science, there is no clear answer to this question of whether masturbation is right or wrong from my point of view

Andrew

Ines There are some articles, but mainly related to male masturbation, there are not medical evidences about any benefits of female masturbatio

It seems to me that the main benefit in this case is the pleasure derived from stimulation and satisfaction of sexual drive ... 😀

Ines

Andrew It seems to me that the main benefit in this case is the pleasure derived from stimulation and satisfaction of sexual drive ... 😀

Correct, but it is empty pleasure. Drug, mere addictive substitute of love, only pleasure that fills the life.

Avery

Andrew It seems to me that the main benefit in this case is the pleasure derived from stimulation and satisfaction of sexual drive ...

No doubt. Also I've found, before I stopped doing it, at least two other benefits which helped me a lot:

Achieving sexual release helped me afterwards to concentrate better on other matters, e.g. studying. Of course here on the forum we hear a lot of examples of where masturbation interfered with studying.
It helped me get in touch with what I needed to do/have done to achieve a satisfactory release, which helped me with partners who did not either know or care (or both) what the girl they were with felt.

Your mileage may vary.

Joh

Ines but it is empty pleasure. Drug, mere addictive substitute of love, only pleasure that fills the life.

I don't think so.
I agree, masturbation is no substitute for love. On the other hand why not have nice feelings. You also play games and the only result out of it is pleasure.

Avery

Ines Exactly.

I found a link to a study entitled : "The Role of Masturbation in Healthy Sexual Development". The title implies, I think, that masturbation contributes to healthy sexual development. But reading the study it's more a chronicle of problems: guilt, lack of information, being called a sissy, etc. I'm pretty sex positive but it was interesting reading about all the difficulties many young people had.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/49810277_The_Role_of_Masturbation_in_Healthy_Sexual_Development_Perceptions_of_Young_Adults

Ines

Avery
😊
I read it this morning! 🥰

@Foxies @Avery @Joh @Andrew

Thank you for expressing your discrepancy politely. Reading your opinions improves the experience of the reader of the thread and even prompts a reflection that can lead you to see that you were wrong or to reaffirm yourself.

Jen

Avery

From the link..... contradiction of stigma and pleasure. Most of the women reported either still struggling with the contradiction or accepting it as normal.

This is exactly how I felt the whole time I masturbated. But I didn't give it up because stigma - I learnt it was never stigma and more what I posted above

Jen

I think it was good to learn about myself. I don't need it though - like the want doesn't keep increasing with time.

But yeah - why not? I feel it is cheating myself - I want to only have one guy, I want to be a virgin when married. Just have all of that experience with only my man. Masturbating feels like cheating on that. Maybe if I only ever played with my clit it would be ok but being filled is part if my pleasure and that feels like cheating

Avery

Jen I think it was good to learn about myself.

😀

Jen Maybe if I only ever played with my clit it would be ok

If you're OK with that you might look up the Lovense Ambi. Nothing goes inside you.

Sara2001

Kaja For me you dont answer the question. No proofs for your words.
Only causeless and unsubstantiated assumptions that every psychologist/sexuologist will disprove.

That's what I feel, too. I don't see the cause behind it, too except because I want it to be so.

Ines They are our beliefs, not science.

I think that's a good summary. You believe it's wrong because you believe it's wrong.

Rafael

Sara2001 I think that's a good summary. You believe it's wrong because you believe it's wrong.

Kaja For me you dont answer the question. No proofs for your words.
Only causeless and unsubstantiated assumptions

I already said it at the beginning of my post, they are cultural considerations, I do not intend to make a theorem about anything.
Also say that I don't know why these beliefs surprise you so much when they are quite widespread.

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Rafael They are ethical and cultural considerations

Rafael I have tried to systematize my ideas, it is evident that our opinion is not structured in points, it is more "customary"

Kaja But it is a CRIME that you are DESTROYING sexuality of your childrens.

Here there aren't children involved, and anyone has a destroyed sexuality.

Avery

Rafael Here there aren't children involved

I think that is incorrect. If children grow up in a home which demonstrates a set of values it must impact the kids. I do not believe what you believe because no one in my house ever told me what you believe, not because you are wrong.

Sara2001

Rafael Also say that I don't know why these beliefs surprise you so much when they are quite widespread.

Because they are not quite widespread. At least not in Germany. Here it's seen as a very fundamentalistic and outdated point of view. Far beyond being conservative.

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