Note to the mods: I first conceived of this many months ago, before the political topics were split off from the rest of the group.
I did not wish for this to be about “politics” in any conventional sense, though I suppose it’s probably inevitable that it will become so. Different people will necessarily have different ideas about what exactly would constitute “a slightly better world”.
For starters, it would be nice if the chastity belt could be rescued from its current state of legal limbo.
Some member of this group once suggested that parents ought to be able to go to a judge, petitioning the court to allow them to impose a chastity belt on their son or daughter. If the judge granted their request, the arrangement would be unequivocally legal.
As it stands right now, no one really knows if they could be prosecuted for imposing a belt on their son or daughter. I guess a lot depends on what jurisdiction you’re in. Im guessing that the socioeconomic status of the parents also enters into the picture. If it’s a wealthy family, the “Children and Youth Services” types are probably more likely to leave you alone.
audioguy58 Thats totally wrong and mad
What will you want next time - permision to tie down your child to central heating?Nail down your child in garage? Castration? FGM? ...?
We can start making the world better by respecting the bodily autonomy of others. If this isn't possible then I would suggest instead of victim blaming, boys should have to wear a cage on their dicks until they can prove they have some level of self control instead of acting like rabid cavemen.
As chastity becomes more widespread, I'm sure it would be sociably accepted in society. As for laws, it may depend on the age of consent if belts and cages are permitted for teens. Someone who supports chastity would have to work hard to become a politician and bring up the topic of teenage wearers. I'm sure strict limits would be placed, similar to kids not allowed to work a certain number of hours (USA laws).
tough questions. I find chastity to be a viable form of behavior modification. I know a young man and nothing his parents or the courts have tried to change his behavior and mindset has worked to curb his criminality. I think it would be a good thing in this boys case if the parents could work with the courts to impose chastity. Much like probation, there would be guidelines and expectations spelled out. Also like probation, good behavior and positive change could reduce or modify the sentence. As a locked male i can attest to the positive changes that chastity can bring. I admire the women on here that use chastity not only to reduce sexuality, but take pride in their respectability as a woman. A respectability that can not be claimed through prominscuous sexuality.
i'm not sure it would be a good thing if parents had this option, but i agree that it would remove legal uncertainties and at least the involuntary ones here (like me) would be protected a bit, because there would certainly be certain rules under which it is only possible then
the problem is, i would actually consider it a bad thing if parents were legally allowed to do that, but we also accept other things that i personally think are wrong, so there has to be a double standard avoided.
We raise a rather slippery topic here.
audioguy58 parents ought to be able to go to a judge, petitioning the court to allow them to impose a chastity belt on their son or daughter. If the judge granted their request, the arrangement would be unequivocally legal.
I suspect that in almost every country there is a legal possibility for parents to apply to the court for a minor's obligation to have a specific behavior (in this case wearing a chastity belt). Of course, with a high degree of probability, the court's reaction will not be favorable to such a conclusion and will end with a limitation of parental rights, and not the child's obligation to wear a belt...
Raziel Someone who supports chastity would have to work hard to become a politician and bring up the topic of teenage wearers.
For a politician, taking up such a topic is (political) suicide. He would be immediately shouted by opponents and the media that he "promotes perversion."
toad I know a young man and nothing his parents or the courts have tried to change his behavior and mindset has worked to curb his criminality.
If the court with the entire arsenal of educational and correctional means could not do anything, then wearing a cage would certainly not do much. In practice, the boy would have to agree to wear it himself, otherwise he would simply free himself from it, since he had such a "difficult" character.
Angelina at least the involuntary ones here (like me) would be protected a bit
I think you draw a wrong conclusion. Already people in your situation are protected by law and authorities, the only issue is whether you want to benefit from this protection (with all its consequences) or not. I am afraid that if the chastity belts became widespread, there would be many more cases like yours.
Andrew I suspect that in almost every country there is a legal possibility for parents to apply to the court for a minor's obligation to have a specific behavior (in this case wearing a chastity belt). Of course, with a high degree of probability, the court's reaction will not be favorable to such a conclusion and will end with a limitation of parental rights, and not the child's obligation to wear a belt...
Agreed.
kitty SUCH IDEAS ARE NOT WELCOME HERE.
Well. I didn’t expect that there would be such a firestorm of opposition. I wasn’t the one who originally proposed the idea. Just wanted to be clear on that.
No, Audio, it was my comment, about her edited comment.
It was not related to your thread.
Ages ago, I had some fun with a thread along the lines of "judges make rulings in chastity court," but I hope it was abundantly clear and correctly marked that this thread was pure fantasy and not in any way a suggestion of how the world SHOULD be.
And while we’re on the subject of legal limbo, there are a couple of other points I’d like to address:
1) Under the laws of the United States as they’re currently written, any maker of chastity belts has to label his product with a “novelty disclaimer”. Why does the seller have to do this? Basically there are two reasons:
First of all, if he did not do this, the belt would come under the jurisdiction of the Food and Drug Administration as a “medical device”. Prior FDA approval would be required before such a device could be sold. The belt maker would have to prove safety and efficacy.
Secondly, Implied Warranty of Merchantability would come into play, meaning that the belt maker could be sued and/or face possible enforcement action from the Federal Trade Commission and/or state attorneys general if any individual consumer wishes to argue that the seller’s product is ineffective at its ostensible purpose. If you sell something as a toaster, it has to be able to toast bread. If you sell something as a mousetrap, it has to be able to catch mice.
2) Second issue in regard to legal limbo:
There are people who have great expertise in building things that fit the human body; they’re called orthotists or artificial-limb-and-brace makers. The problem is that you or I cannot purchase their services without a doctor’s prescription. And any doctor who would sign such a prescription probably deserves to lose his medical license, at least in the case of male belts.
Saintprudence this thread was pure fantasy and not in any way a suggestion of how the world SHOULD be.
OK. I guess I missed that. But the broader issue here is the issue of legal limbo. Most experts would agree that legal limbo is a bad thing, and should be reduced or eliminated wherever possible.
I wish that we could have a better internet, one that would allow for ironclad controls.
I wish that Apple would get out of the way and allow its customers to have access to the best available technology.
(Reposted from Parental control software and internet filters).
I would like to live in an “information perfect” world where every aspect of your life was represented by fields in control blocks (“documents”) residing in cloud storage.
Every paper document issued by government would contain a QR code, or equivalent, linking to the digital version of the document, with the digital version being the “official” version.
The scummy “data brokers” would be put out of business, because there was simply nothing left for them to do; any piece of information about me that you are legally allowed to look up would be available online for free.
It would be impossible to tell the IRS that your financial situation is just terrible while simultaneously telling the loan officer at the bank that it’s just wonderful.
Encrypted security certificates would be everywhere. (See also the short piece I posted to my Fetlife profile regarding “server-side parental controls”. I’m audioguy58 over there as well.)
Encryption-based DRM would be everywhere.
“An anti-libertarian, totalitarian utopia.”
audioguy58 There are people who have great expertise in building things that fit the human body; they’re called orthotists or artificial-limb-and-brace makers. The problem is that you or I cannot purchase their services without a doctor’s prescription.
Yeah you can. You just have to know where to go. ;-)
audioguy58 building things that fit the human body; they’re called orthotists or artificial-limb-and-brace makers.
In my family one of them makes every modification and enhancement of our belts.
@toad @audioguy58 I already live in a slightly better world in that I don't need any court to be involved.
Like most real people I wasn't abused it was just a tool or clothes. The horror movies like Mad Max will make people assume the worst.
Raquel In my family one of them makes every modification and enhancement of our belts.
We have been friends with one such Doctor for a long time but he is easily frightened of topics that might be controversial
