Angelina But then be careful who you give the keys to

Unless I have ordered my own belt, I have no choice.

      Christine Unless I have ordered my own belt, I have no choice.

      That's true, but I don't think you need it right now, maybe later if you feel unsure, then of course you can buy one yourself

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        Angelina Thank you for saying it Angelina, but it really doesn't feel that way to me...

        carg Don't forget to reactivate the lurking 🤣

              Jonas Thank you for saying it Angelina, but it really doesn't feel that way to me...

              don't be pessimistic, we are happy about everyone who is not a troll hihi 😂

                  Angelina don't be pessimistic, we are happy about everyone who is not a troll hihi 😂

                  I'm just trying to tell you how I feel.

                  I posted a comment after leaving and am told not to forget to go away again!

                  • carg replied to this.

                      Jonas
                      Sorry, it was not meant that way. Therefore the smiley at the end.
                      It is common on forums etc. that if someone creates a post and says something like "--start ranting--", they also say a "--stop ranting--" at the end. Since you so explicitly mentioned 'De-lurking' I thought it might have been accompanied by a 'Re-lurking', not meaning to imply that you should not de-lurk again whenever you feel like it.

                          carg Jonas
                          Sorry, it was not meant that way. Therefore the smiley at the end.
                          It is common on forums etc. that if someone creates a post and says something like "--start ranting--", they also say a "--stop ranting--" at the end. Since you so explicitly mentioned 'De-lurking' I thought it might have been accompanied by a 'Re-lurking', not meaning to imply that you should not de-lurk again whenever you feel like it.

                          Thanks so much for clarifying. I guess I am sensitive because I left not feeling welcome here.

                              Jonas Thanks so much for clarifying. I guess I am sensitive because I left not feeling welcome here.

                              It's good that @carg has cleared this up, because it shows once again how easily a misunderstanding of language can make someone feel unwelcome.

                                  Angelina It's good that @carg has cleared this up, because it shows once again how easily a misunderstanding of language can make someone feel unwelcome.

                                  Angelina, I was really glad to hear it too, but I am still trying to tell you that I left this forum because I felt unwelcome. It's not all misunderstandings.

                                  It's not a big deal, there are a million places to speak online. It's just sad to lose touch with people who I'd got to know.

                                      Ines Thank you for saying it, but it was not how I felt.

                                      • Ines replied to this.

                                          Ines Why exactly?

                                          Not here to be interrogated Ines. Here to express my feelings. I felt increasingly unwelcome and I felt that my feelings weren't acknowledged or validated. So I left the group. My posts remain if you want to understand further.

                                          Please feel free to move these comments over to "just chatting" rather than gum up this topic.

                                          • Ines replied to this.

                                              Jonas

                                              Jonas Not here to be interrogated Ines

                                              I am in my right of ask kindly, and you, of course in your right of not answering. It was not an Interrogation, but interest as mod about if we could do something, but do not worry, you will not need say me the same twice.

                                                    Jonas but I am still trying to tell you that I left this forum because I felt unwelcome. It's not all misunderstandings.

                                                    I know this is offtopic, but @Ines will forgive me because it is important.
                                                    what exactly is the reason why you don't feel welcome? what can we do about it, so that you feel better here?
                                                    you have been an active member for a long time and it would be a shame to lose someone like you.

                                                        Thank you for clarifying Ines. Your post did not communicate kindness nor an desire to improve moderation to me as it was so very short.

                                                        I'm not here to rake up old posts. I just wanted to express my feelings and say that I was sad to leave everyone here, including you.

                                                          Angelina I know this is offtopic, but @Ines will forgive me because it is important.
                                                          what exactly is the reason why you don't feel welcome? what can we do about it, so that you feel better here?
                                                          you have been an active member for a long time and it would be a shame to lose someone like you.

                                                          Jonas Angelina Thank you for saying it. I will have to have a think.

                                                          Angelina, there doesn't seem to be any way to discuss the problem without bringing up specific posts and people and I won't do that. All I can really do is to repeat that I was sad to leave and that I left because I ended up not feeling welcome to express my views or feelings.

                                                          Thank you for your kind messages, I really did appreciate them a whole lot.

                                                          Love and respect to all, and best wishes.