Guaranteed virginity until marriage

Angelina

HHelen Of course, I wanted the same for her.

such a unity is rare, but if it works for you, I am of course happy 🙂

Vanessa Anyway,I think too that there is good reasons to have sex before marriage,but I've already explained it!😉

that's true, I'm not against sex before marriage, but I think it must always be considered in a very differentiated way

HHelen

Angelina such a unity is rare

It's not rare with proper education.

Angelina

HHelen It's not rare with proper education.

maybe, but in many families it is different

Vanessa

HHelen I did and she wanted.

Ok.But maybe she would have perfected to stay virgin,but without a chastity belt.

Kris

I would guess it for a chastity cage,but why it is more easy for you to hide a chastity belt?

Angelina

Vanessa .But maybe she would have perfected to stay virgin,but without a chastity belt.

but this requires much more mental strength

HHelen

Vanessa But maybe she would have perfected to stay virgin,but without a chastity belt.

Of course. As everybody else. But I wanted to be sure, especially there was a way.

Vanessa

Angelina

I agree.

HHelen

Do you think she could have managed to stay virgin without a chastity belt,or probably not?

And her?Does she agree she would have trouble to stay virgin until marriage if free?

HHelen

Vanessa Do you think she could have managed to stay virgin without a chastity belt,or probably not?

I'm pretty sure, she couldn't.

Vanessa Does she agree she would have trouble to stay virgin until marriage if free?

She doesn't think so. But this is age.

Angelina

HHelen I'm pretty sure, she couldn't.

even if she wants to?

Vanessa

HHelen She doesn't think so.

I guessed it.

Angelina right, i have said myself that i do not expect this kind of willpower from most girls

I agree it can be hard,but not impossible.It would depend on each people,and,in this case,we should trust @HHelen about the fact that her daughter has enough willpower for it or not.

HHelen

Angelina even if she wants to?

We must be realistic.

Angelina

HHelen We must be realistic.

right, i have said myself that i do not expect this kind of willpower from most girls

HHelen

Angelina i do not expect this kind of willpower from most girls

Me too.

Vanessa we should trust @HHelen about the fact that her daughter has enough willpower for it or not.

Let's assume she doesn't.

Angelina

Vanessa I agree it can be hard,but not impossible

of course it is not impossible, but I think it needs more than willpower, it needs the right inner attitude

Vanessa

HHelen

And,now,it doesn't matter much anymore.

Angelina

Yes,we must consider staying virgin until marriage as something very important for us.

Angelina

Vanessa staying virgin until marriage as something very important for us.

and that's why it's not enough to say i don't try to masturbate anymore, i must be able to say that staying virgin until marriage is an inner conviction for me

Vanessa

Angelina

I agree,but I don't think masturbation means you're not virgin anymore.Except,maybe,if using sex-toys;or if you consider that having an orgasm,even while not breaking your hymen,is similar to losing virginity.

Angelina

Vanessa ,but I don't think masturbation means you're not virgin anymore

i don't think so either, i have not made myself clear. i call virgin without sex, chaste virgin also without mastubation

Vanessa ;or if you consider that having an orgasm,even while not breaking your hymen,is similar to losing virginity.

no I don't think so, as I said I have not made myself clear

Max9

Vanessa I agree,but I don't think masturbation means you're not virgin anymore.Except,maybe,if using sex-toys;or if you consider that having an orgasm,even while not breaking your hymen,is similar to losing virginity.

I partly agree on that. I would say for men it never means loosing the virginity, for women anything that breaks the hymen means loosing the virginity.

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