Milord I agree. Being belted cannot cure excessive masturbation but I do think that after a period of wearing, the desire diminishes somewhat. When it is again allowed, then the craving to continue returns in full force.
Total preventing is bad but controlling is of some value.
Used properly, it does not have to be like putting a muzzle on your son to prevent excessive eating. It can be more like wiring the jaw shut to limit eating choices. (I am not suggesting a parent do that to a child either) But masturbation prevention does not have to be an all or nothing situation. It can be about helping to learn moderation.
I understand that you list was not to apply to adults or voluntary involuntary wearers but I do think that someone under 18 who recognizes that they have a problem, perhaps pointed out by parents, may choose a chastity belt as a solution. In that case, the parents are probably the best choice as keyholders.

    Tjc

    I can agree, but of course it’s totally out from the perspective of this topic. I still don’t believe it’s a good solution. I mean, if my 14yo (my son is 12, not 14, but he has no puberty, so bad example) son ask me help for something like this I will ask for a specialised help, not allow a chastity belt for various reasons
    1) not sure long term effect on his grow
    2) if someone discover it, it will have catastrophic effects (even if voluntary wearer)
    3) while I want him to be happy, he has to learn to control. I provide the tools, removing possible is the contrary of what should he do. Should he have issues been with other people you help him overcome or you close it at home?
    4) Anyway I don’t think that get involved in offspring genital is a good idea

    In any case thanks for contributing

    Milord

    it’s like suggesting that putting a muzzle on my son is good because this way we prevent excessive eating.

    41.9% of adults are clinically obese. Is surgically reducing the size of the stomach to reduce eating a bad thing?

      Milord

      You are suggesting that physically preventing someone from excessive eating is a bad thing. And I am asking if doing so surgically is also a bad thing.

      I ask because it is a common enough practice, such that I personally know multiple people in my church who have undergone gastric bypass, including a relative.

        WriterAlexis gastric bypass is not a physical limitation. Reducing the size of stomach gives a sense of fullness. And limit the absorption of food. Doesnt prevent people from eating
        Are you comparing a surgical intervention, used to cure a pathological situation that heavily impact health and can lead to death to a chastity belt or a muzzle?
        And why I should be against surgery?
        It's like asking if I'm against a cast if I break an arm

          Milord And why I should be against surgery?

          Ultimately, I think the key is that before any surgery, there is extensive medical consultation that establishes:

          • That there is a real problem that negatively impacts the life of the patient
          • That the surgery is an effective solution to the problem
          • That less invasive alternatives have been explored and found to be insufficient to solve that problem
          • That the patient understands the risk and the side effects of that surgery
          • That the patient has properly weighed the benefits against the risks and has made a decision accordingly.

          How many of these points are met in the cases described here?

            youdontknowme That the patient understands the risk and the side effects of that surgery
            That the patient has properly weighed the benefits against the risks and has made a decision accordingly.

            Milord I think this is covered by the two above points. Not the patient's parents, the patient themself, unless the patient's life depends on getting the surgery done before the patient regains consciousness.

            Avery Is it worth mentioning that 1/4 of the world (the Muslims) forbids sex before marriage and manages it without people using belts?

            Yes. Their solution is far worse.

            Milord Speaking as someone who has had bypass surgery: Gastric bypass IS a physical limitation. It is simply not possible to eat the volume of food previously consumed due to the reduced stomach size. Other effects are that the food must be eaten more slowly (throat restriction) and less of the calories are absorbed (intestinal bypass). It's not a magic cure-all, but I certainly found it of some help in controlling my obesity (for a real magic cure, try throat cancer!).
            I don't think the comparison is valid as you're juxtaposing a physical problem against a (perceived) moral one.

              Tonyand03 thank you very much. Well, I learned something you.
              I still think you don't compare this kind of physical limitation with one imposed by belt.

                Milord

                Milord I still think you don't compare this kind of physical limitation with one imposed by belt.

                I agree. Hence my last line.

                  Tonyand03
                  I'm sorry if I sometime repeat the obvious.
                  I'm not a native English speaker, and sometimes I'm not sure I understand correctly

                  May I say that I expected much more confrontation on this topics?
                  At least to get some challenges.

                    Milord And what conclusion do you come to?
                    I say that our views on this subject differ only in the details.

                      Joh i want to think that people are not happy to talk with me.
                      Much worse will be if there are not counter argumentation
                      Whats your idea?

                      • Joh replied to this.

                        Milord
                        This forum is against putting minors in a CB. The points you have listed are all correct in my opinion and I suspect the others see it the same way. Therefore, there will be no opposition.

                          Joh

                          But this is not only against minors. Its against belting from parents, specifically, against belting young adults: while legally everything change, a 18yo living at home and economically depending from parents is not so different from a minor, and my concerns are tied to this situation. I edited the main page to make it clearer

                            @Milord Are you suggesting that because the forum is opposed to putting minors in a CB against their will that it should also be against parents putting older offspring in a belt? I think that is not longer a legal issue of possible child abuse. Does it make a difference to you if the older child does not live at home? Does it make a difference if they are not economically dependent? How much pressure can parents put on an over 18 child to wear a belt before you are opposed to the idea?