Introductions-2

Welcome Hana. When in doubt, please always assume our questions and comments are not directed against you.

PigtailSam Combination of things, included privileges and money. Also it helps my relationship with my parents, and at least at the start there were some convincing moral arguments that are less convincing with age (hence reluctance).

What's your regime, and how do you cope?

Thank you for sharing that. How can we support you?

Damien I have zero idea, I might vent sometime but mostly I just wanted to get the awkward intro out of the way and will use the board when I feel like it I guess.

hanatan, is there a plan for how long you will be wearing it?

pestulens My parents would like me to wear until marriage, I would like to stop sooner. I think at some point if I can support myself I will stop.

hanatan at the start there were some convincing moral arguments that are less convincing with age (hence reluctance).

What convincing moral argument did they use?
And did they say if you should wear it until end of school, UNI, or marriage?

Joh First of all I was/have been/maybe still am also religious, and I believe(d?) that it was a good thing to be pure. The Church preaches the law of chastity as one of its big pillars especially to young people. And the reason for the initiation of chastity was what I fully acknowledge was too much time spent enjoying porn. And I do believe I was unhealthy about it and that sort of quitting cold turkey was a reasonable thing. So both those things convinced me.

Of course now I think I have more self control, and my faith waivers.

hanatan million dollar question: you surely know that you can get out when you want, and keeping you in is immoral and illegal. So, what will happens if you just demand to get out?
If you feel of to answer of course. No pressure

Milord I ask myself sometimes if it is worth it. But as I said earlier I have some incentives for staying in it, related to privileges at home and college financial support soon. I would lose that if I demanded out. I think it would also damage my relationship with my parents and their view of me. And on the one hand, at times I think all of that is worth it, that I don't care what they think of me, that I will survive on my own. And maybe it is true. But so far I haven't thought the frustration is worth the fallout.

Also, in my more rational times, I have to admit I feel stupid and silly and childish when I think that physical pleasure is worth all the debt and damaged relationships and everything.

The other hand is that they aren't abusive. I could demand out and take those consequences. It's not like they tied me down to belt me in the first place and for a time I do think I benefited from it. I don't know if that's true now but maybe it is.

Milord I think if it wasn't available parents who really cared would just rely more on other forms of pressure. I mean browsing the forums we have many girls with varying degrees of cooperation wearing in Europe right? Anyways I think they only use the pressure point out of a sincere belief it's best for me. Lots of parents try in various ways to get their kids to do things they hate if it's good for them. Maybe in reality if I demanded it off or cut it they would not actually enforce the consequences.

Now, don't take the above rationality for a defense. I disagree with it. I resent the dilemma. But the point is there isn't a magic get out with no consequences button available, and hypotheticals are not a key.

hanatan very well put, congratulations. Currently in Europe girls wearing are voluntary, even enthusiastic. I, as a father, don't believe it's morally acceptable to force my belief on a adult child, and on minor only for his own good, and for sure respecting the law.

Then my note applies to the high level education and a place where to live. While for example buying a car can be used as pressure, not paying studies will not be considered acceptable. In Italy kicking a child out is not possible. Law and society will prevent it

hanatan Nice to meet you!