Esteban I think we should try to place an object between the shield and the clitoris to send it external vibrations. (Steel balls for example).

Introduce what!!! 😱😱
Esteban, wellcome. I think you have a good number or wrong conceptions about us and our belts.
First of them I will have the honour of solve right now: It is matearially impossible introduce nothing between our shield and our bellies. This is the point of wear a chastity belt. Every girl here has treated to fight against belt, even me being a proud an convinced wearer. A lot of centuries making efforts to avoid uncontrollated female activities achieve to get very perfect devices.

Esteban, be polite, be warm, be supportive and everybody here will be pleased of solve your curiosity. 🙂

      @Ines I like @Esteban 's thinking. Finally another person who does't care about anything and just suggests thing we would try IRL. c: Welcome home buddy.

        i would try but on the one hand i don't have devices like a vibrator and i have no possibility to get it without my father noticing it, on the other hand it's a risk and trust issue, if i would cheat the belt, i couldn't have an honest relationship with my father anymore, i think that what @Esteban writes here are things we had already discussed, it doesn't matter, because we could break the belt anytime 😉 what is completely ignored are again the social consequences, how it would harm the family. always only constructive but no emotional solutions are found.

        i think that's a pity, i don't need any solutions to break the belt, i can do that myself. i need solutions to not damage my social environment, why doesn't anybody respond to it ?

        i hope you understand what i mean, it should finally be offered at the other (social) end solutions and not only how to break the belt

        sorry for my words i mean that not bad but i think i had to say this once

          Angelina
          Do not be mad with him! 😂
          Sometimes it sucks, but when you think about, it is lovely when you see a man trying to do her best in order to help a woman, that in many cases did not ask for help! 😅
          Even sometimes it is very tired I like see that men try to help and protect us, (thinking right now about this: maybe it is a bit different for you due you like girls? What do you think?) , I love protective gentlemen and I hate unruly and disrespectful guys.
          About social issues...It is a bit difficult, you are totally right, 😕.
          Maybe if your father achieve to relax a bit, you will gain some freedom. I think that Camrym and your extra shower can be a beginning!
          Anyway, have a nice day today! You deserve it!

              BikelockFugitive
              It's nice to share my point of view even though I just understood it was wrong.
              Like you, I am very affected by the distress of these young women. Sincerely tear my heart out what they have to undergo on a daily basis. Only Ines seems to live with his situation. But we must bear in mind, however, that they live in extraordinary family environments that are beyond comprehension.

              And from this extraordinary family situation emerges two main fears for girls:

              • The fear of being unmasked in case of fraud on the belt and take the correction of their life. And I can understand that they are reluctant in not wanting to take the risk of reducing the little freedom they have in their daily lives. Therefore we must be careful with the different tips we give them. They yearn for more freedom but they are all paralyzed at the thought of getting caught

              • In addition, for some of them the moral constraint to pass for a poorly educated girl who would think only sex in wanting to please. And here we must keep in mind that even if their parents have a totally deviant behavior, they are still their parents! And this emotional connection must not be underestimated. This is what Angelina's post tends to show in which she explains that even if she did not get caught by her father, she would still be deeply affected to betray her trust. I understand that it is very difficult to understand but it is their state of mind and we do not have to judge it. In relation to this problem I would say that it would first unlock the spirit of their father so that the latter can unlock their belt. So for those who feel morally guilty of betraying the trust of their father, it would be more appropriate to offer them a pitch that could trigger a click into their father's mind rather than offer them ways to escape the device. .

              I hope that with my analysis you will arrive at the same conclusion as me.

                  so last post for today is coming camryn 😃

                  @Ines I know that Esteban wants to help us and I'm not angry either, I'm even very grateful and Esteban has my post luckily understood correctly 😉 I also think that it doesn't matter if I'm dating a girl, because I'm bisexual and can imagine relationships with both sexes (if currently only with camryn). i think it's good if a man takes care of a woman only i'm a little annoyed that every man here always first sees the constructive and not the emotional side, i hope that will change soon 😉

                  @Esteban first of all thanks that you understood me and now you have gone more into the emotional side 😃 . the thought lock to open I have tried very often but so far always without success. I know why he wants to close me and I accept it, but I think he is in his thoughts and loss fears quite stuck 🙁
                  nevertheless I read myself gladly your tips by even if so far still nothing for me thereby true 😉

                  until tomorrow you love 😃

                  • Ines replied to this.

                    Angelina i hope that will change soon 😉

                    It is easy! Only we need a massive extinction and rebuild the human species since we go out of the sea! 😂

                      Ines
                      Hello Ines
                      I beg you to forgive my ignorance about the design of the chastity devices that you are all called upon to wear. Having never had any contact with this type of "product" that I would call "disconcerting" I apologize for writing a mistake.
                      In fact, if I suggested this idea it was because I thought I understood that Vanessa had managed to introduce small objects into her shield without achieving the desired effect. And I deduced that the vibration of the shield would be ineffective if there was no contact reinforced by the zone of pleasure.
                      Otherwise it is true that your opinion is unique since you seem to be the only one to accept the principle of restricting your sexual freedom. Moreover, the fact that your younger sister may still be free of her actions proves that there is a certain family consensus on the subject. In your family your parents encourage you to master sex-ually but without forcing you by force or blackmail.
                      If I can afford a comparison: it's a bit like encouraging teens to wear braces so they can have perfect teeth in adult-hood. In the beginning, the dental appliance provokes a physical and aesthetic dis-satisfaction but it will generate an advantage for the adult. Does my example of the dental appliance go in the direction of your conception compared to the idea that you have chastity?
                      In other words, I respect your opinion because you are intimately convinced of ob-taining a superior blessing once married. In a way you seem to make it a point of honor to master you sexually and I can only congratulate you to impose such disci-pline on your future husband. I hope he will consider you a princess and behave like a prince charming to you. Moreover “Ines” rhymes with “princess”.

                      On the other hand I am deeply upset and revolted by the story of girls who are locked against their will. I consider it an unpardonable male oppression that can have serious psychological consequences on girls many years later. In addition I recently discovered that some of them were also physically punished just for the principle every Sunday. Their story so upset me that I would have preferred never to discover this forum and remain in a certain naivety in thinking that this type of situation did not exist. Now that I know I am deeply uncomfortable with this distress. And I unders-tood that on this point our opinion was convergent. Am I right to think so?

                      If not in relation to your situation, I would like you to shed light on two questions:

                      Could your younger sister be punished if she was caught masturbating where does she have total freedom until she decided to wear the belt?

                      As you seem to be firmly convinced that you should not masturbate, could not you just swear to your parents not to do it?
                      And in case of breach of your commitment you agree to submit to a regime more stringent than the one you currently have for a certain period defined in advance. I think this type of consensus would be less infantilizing and would save you a lot of hygienic and physical constraints. Moreover you would feel valued on the moral plane since you would be able to master yourself. It would not be the metal that would dictate your behavior but only your sincere desire to honor your parents. If I take again the example of the dental apparatus: you could obtain an impeccable den-tition by making the commitment not to suck your thumb during your childhood. Do you like my demo?

                          Ines
                          Attention the other Mac Gyver to yet another idea:

                          1. Twist the handle one tablespoon.

                          2. Grasp the spoon upside down.

                          3. Slide the spoon handle from the back of the belt through the shield until you reach the fun zone.

                          4A. Stimulate the pleasure zone by the movement of the spoon or by moving your hips.

                          4B. Or Using a vibrator transmit vibrations to the spoon as soon as it is well positioned in the shield.

                              Esteban
                              😅 I will try answer all your questions!

                              Esteban Does my example of the dental appliance go in the direction of your conception compared to the idea that you have chastity?

                              Well, Esteban. Can be a little similar, but you have to aware than when a girl accept wear a belt, is giving an enormous trust charge in the hands of key holder. Not only you accept a present disconfort, that is correct too, but also you are giving part of your life to a loved being, first parents, and later, in my case, my husband.

                              Esteban On the other hand I am deeply upset and revolted by the story of girls who are locked against their will.

                              Me too, Esteban, maybeI am not so sad or angry as you, but for me that I was used only to my family approach, I do not like either the suffering of these girls. In my family forced chastity is out of sight, and too was a little shocking for me discovering other approaches and other circumstances. I am southern, and in general I can not understand certain kind of discipline, but talking with both girls they tried to explain me, anyway I can respect their lifestyle, but I can not understand. There is an Italian forum mate, and he is in our same situation.

                              Esteban Could your younger sister be punished if she was caught masturbating where does she have total freedom until she decided to wear the belt?

                              Not at all. In fact she, some time ago, used to annoy me and my sister with that when she was angry. I my home my parents can ground us, what happens few times, but in a similar manner to other families.

                              Esteban As you seem to be firmly convinced that you should not masturbate, could not you just swear to your parents not to do it?

                              No, Esteban. It is not, mainly, about girls (in my family), and their pleasure. The belt is about be pampered, to be caressed, about girls that enjoy feminity giving theirselves. In fact, I make sport at more or less high amateur level, and I train and play without belt. I go every day to class without belt. If I have a true need to be released when I am wearing I just have to ask for it. As you can see, if I do not cheat it is not due to lack of opportunities.
                              Belt in my family is a door to a way of being woman, selfgived and amorous, and It is a wonderful path if a girl can selfrealise in it.

                              A pair of days ago my mother wrote in this forum, a very nice post, Allow me advice you to read it.

                              Esteban I beg you to forgive my ignorance about the design of the chastity devices that you are all called upon to wear.

                              Nothing to forgive. It is something estrange for you.

                              Esteban I suggested this idea it was because I thought I understood that Vanessa had managed to introduce small objects into her shield

                              You, with effort you can introduce something flat, girls here recommended a cosmetic palette, and well you can achieve scratch a little bit, but nothing similar to stimulation.

                              Chastity belts are very perfect devices. Are pieces of very fine work! 😂

                              PS: Esteban, do you like cinema? I love the cinema. Allow me a weird question: Have you seen The hunt of the Red October?

                                              Ines First of them I will have the honour of solve right now: It is matearially impossible introduce nothing between our shield and our bellies. This is the point of wear a chastity belt. Every girl here has treated to fight against belt, even me being a proud an convinced wearer. A lot of centuries making efforts to avoid uncontrollated female activities achieve to get very perfect devices.

                                              I agree;I've tried some very thin objects,like a ruler,for example(Catherine and me have given few examples of objects we tried on Misterpoll),but never succeed to get an orgasm this way.And small objects are impossible to use.Otherwise,we could use fingers or partner's tongue to reach orgasm...

                                              Angelina we could break the belt anytime 😉 what is completely ignored are again the social consequences, how it would harm the family. always only constructive but no emotional solutions are found.

                                              I could even tell my parents I will stop wearing it and tell them to give me my keys,and the'yll do it,but I should be prepared to leave quickly and don't expect to have much contact with them after it...until I change my mind or be married,at least.

                                              Ines Even sometimes it is very tired I like see that men try to help and protect us, (thinking right now about this: maybe it is a bit different for you due you like girls? What do you think?) , I love protective gentlemen and I hate unruly and disrespectful guys.

                                              I don't think it is very different when we're attracted to women,and not(only)to men.But,as @Angelina noticed,a woman can understand better the emotionnal side of it.

                                              Ines Maybe if your father achieve to relax a bit, you will gain some freedom. I think that Camrym and your extra shower can be a beginning!

                                              Yes,Angelina's father seems to have given her some more freeedom and rights,but I don't think he'll change his mind,even a little,with chastity,anytime soon...

                                              Esteban The fear of being unmasked in case of fraud on the belt and take the correction of their life. And I can understand that they are reluctant in not wanting to take the risk of reducing the little freedom they have in their daily lives.

                                              I would get one of the worst spanking I ever got,sure,but the possible restrictions with Emilie would be the main punishment for me...

                                              Esteban In addition, for some of them the moral constraint to pass for a poorly educated girl who would think only sex in wanting to please.

                                              In my case,if I didn't fear the consequences,I would not feel very guilty to break the rules about chastity...As I don't agree with these.

                                              Esteban I would say that it would first unlock the spirit of their father so that the latter can unlock their belt.

                                              It would be very hard to make our parents change their mind about chastity...

                                              Esteban I consider it an unpardonable male oppression that can have serious psychological consequences on girls many years later.

                                              In my case,my mother totally agree with it,it is not only my father's decision.And,even if I don't like it,I don't notice problems related to it.I can have fun times with friends,am in a wonderful relationship with my grilfriend...So it is unpleasant,but I don't think it would always have bad consequences on our life,except the wanted ones when we're wearing it.

                                              Esteban

                                              i don't think it will work with the cable one or the band one,maybe a bit with the chains one.However,it may makes the vibrations stronger,if the vibrator is strong enough at first,to compensate a bit the belt.I don't think it would be enough to stimulate me,but using it with a good vibrator may be useful.

                                              And the spoons in my home are not thin,except the silvery ones.

                                              Ines Not at all. In fact she some time ago used to annoy me and my sister with that when she was angry.

                                              Was it accepted?My parents won't tolerate my twin tease me with it or discuss it in public.

                                              Ines You, with effort you can introduce something flat, girls here recommended a cosmetic palette, and well you can achieve scratch a little bit, but nothing similar to stimulation.

                                              It can even be a lot of frustration!

                                              Ines Chastity belts are very perfect devices. Are pieces of very fine work! 😂

                                              Too perfect,in my opinion.It won't be bad if these were a bit less effective...

                                              • Ines replied to this.

                                                                        Vanessa
                                                                        No of course, those "argues" are always out of sight of my parents.
                                                                        My parents do not tolerate anger discussion. But well, sometimes sister have angry discussions.
                                                                        I guess that almost every sisters! 😅

                                                                            Vanessa
                                                                            Feel proud of wear so amazing showing piece of human ingenuity!
                                                                            No, seriously, sometime sucks...

                                                                                Ines

                                                                                Yes I think it happens in all families,that siblings argue;and it should be discreet,sure.

                                                                                Ines

                                                                                Well,proud is clearly not the first thing coming to my mind when I think I have to wear it! 😉

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                                                                                      Vanessa Well,proud is clearly not the first thing coming to my mind when I think I have to wear it!

                                                                                      😂

                                                                                        Ines

                                                                                        Ines I must admit that your questioning on "In pursuit of Red October" calls me. You want to talk about the movie with Sean CONNERY in the role of Commander Marco RAMIUS. It is a very difficult film to understand in the course of the actions but that I very much appreciated. I particularly liked the relationship between the commander and his second Vasily (from memory). Indeed, even if he disapproved of a decision of the commander he never contradicted him "never" in front of the crew. He gave Captain Ramuis an unfailing devotion. You see this movie speaks to me.
                                                                                        Moreover, at this moment in France we have a campaign for the prevention of breast cancer called "Pink October" the goal is to encourage women over 50 years to make mammograms to ensure that everything good for her. So it's a strange coincidence that you're talking about this movie because I've been thinking about it recently. I am amazed by this coincidence of circumstance.
                                                                                        Otherwise my two favorite films are "Titanic" (1998) and "2-22" (2017) which must be called "premonition" in Spanish. I think you should enjoy this movie (There's a protective man) so I'll link you to the trailer link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D95U1t5VQys

                                                                                        • Ines replied to this.

                                                                                            Esteban
                                                                                            Right. You got the point.
                                                                                            Even the comparison can be a little strange at first, you understood perfectly.
                                                                                            The role of Captain of Frigate Vassily Borodin is in my opinion the role of woman in which I believe and I am comfortable. Trusting in her partner, holding him and with absolutely certain that every decision is dedicated to her own good. He is not a clown, he is not a slave, he has a main role which plays supporting his commander and his friend.
                                                                                            To be this way becomes in less important the character of Borodin? No. Becomes him in a less valuable human being? No. Becomes him in a worst officer? No. I am happy playing in my life a similar role.
                                                                                            The role of Connery, instead is the role of male that I like. Taking charge of all, and every decision that he takes is thinking in the benefit of his crew and friends.
                                                                                            I hope the comparison, even weird, served to illustrate a little my conception about the life. 🙂😉

                                                                                              Esteban
                                                                                              Do not worry. My home is quite relaxed! 😂.
                                                                                              And well, no matter anyway. Fight with our belt is in our nature, so take it easy, because manufacturers make a great product! Totally girl proof if it is well measured.
                                                                                              Maybe with some Chinese copy, your advices can result, but not with serious belt.

                                                                                                  Esteban

                                                                                                  About the story,I've answered on the other thread.

                                                                                                  For the advices,these ideas can be good if we want to try the second method you suggested in your first post here.If I manage to have enough time to try it while absolutely sure to not be caught,it is ones I can try too.

                                                                                                  Angelina first i agree @Vanessa, i can also go to my father and tell him that i want the release, then he would unlock me but the consequences would be bad. i'm still a minor so he can't just force me to move out but by the time i'm 18, i have to move out and my father would end the contact until i'm married or ready to have me locked up again, and until my 18th birthday i probably won't be allowed to leave the house (except for school) and my family relationship with my father would be extremely damaged so it's not an option

                                                                                                  Very similar situation for both of us,so.Telling we stop it is possible but means having to live on our own,with no help,and almost no contact with our families,but,if we accept to be locked again,or if we marry,it would be ok again.

                                                                                                  Angelina @all here many different lifestyles collide, we communicate unbs here on different levels. I also do not always find good what happens with me or in other families but I find it good to be able to exchange about it 😉

                                                                                                  I agree.

                                                                                                  Esteban But if I can make a suggestion to Laura: I wish that my messages related to the means proposed to try to relieve the girls can be grouped under a rather neutral heading so that the deviant parents can not not without serving to confuse their daughter and punish them.

                                                                                                  I think no one here,except Ines,have her parents coming in.

                                                                                                  And by the way,you talk with Laura about "her daughter".I think the daughter is Ines,but you confuse Laura and Tere,it seems.

                                                                                                  Ines And well, no matter anyway. Fight with our belt is in our nature, so take it easy, because manufacturers make a great product! Totally girl proof if it is well measured.

                                                                                                  I'm pretty sure all of us are fighting it,and our parents know it and understand it is a natural reaction for us.

                                                                                                  Even if totally useless,yes...🙁