Sara2001

and my father tries to make his rules, which can be exhausting for me, as pleasant as possible, which is not always successful but he tries

I think it's a little silly of your father to think that way

    It is awesome.

    Angelina

    When it is very hot,fans don't help that much.

    You can try to suspend a wet towel in front of these(take care it can't go into the fan blades,I think it can be dangerous),or make bottles of water freeze and put them on a table,in front of the fan.

    Air conditioning would be a good idea.We'll do it in Spring,in my family.

    Sara2001

    It is hard!He should allow it,no need to make it worse...

    Angelina

    I agree.It is uselessly hard.And,I think,counterproductive;if it is too hard to bear,we'll fight our chastity devices more.

      Vanessa I agree.It is uselessly hard.And,I think,counterproductive;if it is too hard to bear,we'll fight our chastity devices more.

      Buying air conditioning for the whole house is very expensive and still very uncommon in Germany. It's not that he wants to make it worse for us, but you are right. He doesn't think that it is necessary to make it as comfortable as possible for us. He thinks woman have to accept discomfort to reach the standards set by the male leader.

      I think it is not that far from what most girls here have to experience, otherwise we would all get out of anything except chastity belt if it is hot and only had to wear the belt in situations where we had options to give pleasure to ourselves.

        Ines And the standard set from leader... Is it disconfort?

        No, the standard is: It is as it is. He doesn't invest extra effort to make it less comfortable or more comfortable if more comfort is not absolutely necessary.

        That's why I would never buy a German car πŸ™‚

          Laura That's why I would never buy a German car πŸ™‚

          Then you have never tried to configure a BMW. I heard it almost consists of extras only πŸ™‚

            Sara2001 Of course I prefer to drive a car rather than "configure" it assuming I have everything I need already

              Laura I mean the car configurator on the web page. We used it in school as an example for complex configuration with strong relationships.

              @Vanessa

              i also think it is illogical what sara's father is doing. the main goal of our parents should be that we accept our situation as good as possible, so they don't have to make it harder than necessary πŸ™

              Sara2001 otherwise we would all get out of anything except chastity belt if it is hot

              and that's exactly what I'm doing, your dad needs to think more logically

                Angelina and that's exactly what I'm doing, your dad needs to think more logically

                Really, when will your tightbands and chastity bra be removed? They don't fulfill any purpose except making it more difficult for you. He is making it more difficult for you then necessary. Why do you have to do additional work to do on a regular basis to just get a short chain between your tightbands while they chain doesn't reduce the security of your chastity in any way.

                Angelina they don't have to make it harder than necessary πŸ™

                It's not like he doing things harder for us. He just doesn't do anything easier for us because of the chastity equipment. I think this is a very big difference.

                  Sara2001

                  my father is very unsure how far he can go regarding my chastity. he often does not know what is and what is not for safety, which does not always make it easy πŸ™

                  additional work in the household is part of becoming an adult woman and i have to say that i have reached a certain maturity for my age. also i do a lot of this additional work in his office, which is good for me, because i want to work in this profession later

                  but it's about something else maybe i expressed myself badly. the biggest wish of my father is that i can accept my situation as good as possible and therefore he does everything to make this possible and in this point your father thinks illogically in my opinion

                  I don't understand why he doesn't want to make it easier for you, because then you would accept it better πŸ˜‰

                    Sara2001

                    I don't agree much.

                    It is expensive,yes.But if they can afford to buy metal devices(which are pretty expensive)for preventing us to access some parts of our body and restrict our freedom(especially sexually,but not only),I think they could afford for something who would help everyone in the family when it is hot.

                    I think,too,it would be easier to be motivated to reach the standards if she notices the male leader take care to make it easier for her to reach.

                    For your example,it can be my case.Depending on my parents' decision about it,I can easily have only my chastity belt on when it is hot...And closing it only when she can pleasure herself is not a matter of comfort,but it would mean a lot of closing/unclosing,not easy to manage.

                    Laura

                    If I would have a lot of money,I would not be against using a Tesla car,which drives automatically as long as we have at least one hand on the steering wheel!πŸ˜‰

                    Angelina i also think it is illogical what sara's father is doing. the main goal of our parents should be that we accept our situation as good as possible, so they don't have to make it harder than necessary πŸ™

                    I agree.And add they should make it easier,if it is possible.

                    Sara2001 Really, when will your tightbands and chastity bra be removed? They don't fulfill any purpose except making it more difficult for you. He is making it more difficult for you then necessary. Why do you have to do additional work to do on a regular basis to just get a short chain between your tightbands while they chain doesn't reduce the security of your chastity in any way.

                    The thigh bands make the belt more secure(harder to introduce anything under the shield,reducing the risk we can feel some stimulation).The chastity bra prevents to have the breasts stimulated.Not only related to comfort.

                    Angelina additional work in the household is part of becoming an adult woman and i have to say that i have reached a certain maturity for my age. also i do a lot of this additional work in his office, which is good for me, because i want to work in this profession later

                    I agree,it is useful to prepare us to live on our own later.

                    Angelina I don't understand why he doesn't want to make it easier for you, because then you would accept it better πŸ˜‰

                    Which is different is @Sara2001 is "less reluctant" than us.Even if I guess she would prefer to not have to wear it,she accepts it pretty well and is ready to have it on,even after married.So,no needs to make her accept it easier,I think.

                      Vanessa If I would have a lot of money,I would not be against using a Tesla car,which drives automatically as long as we have at least one hand on the steering wheel!

                      I'm thinking about it πŸ˜›

                        Laura

                        I guess a driver's licence is still necessary,however,to be able to control the car if there is a bug.

                          Vanessa I think they could afford for something who would help everyone in the family when it is hot.

                          Yes, I exactly know what you want to say and I would love to have it this way, but sadly that's not how my father is thinking. He thinks that woman should accept that they are much more limited then man and that making the discomfort as small as possible is a sign of remorse. The man must do everything that it is possible to wear the chastity equipment save and hygienic. He must take care that it is bearable. For example I think we will get holes in our chastity bra's, too. But from his point of view it is not necessary to make it as comfortable as possible. Especially when it takes effort for him, like opening us every day for a shower. It's right that we feel better after the shower but nobody from us ever had serious problems from only having an unbelted shower just once a week. Belted shower takes just more effort for us.

                          Vanessa I think,too,it would be easier to be motivated to reach the standards if she notices the male leader take care to make it easier for her to reach.

                          My father don't think motivation is needed because we have no choice anyway. For "motivation" he uses rules and severe punishments πŸ™

                          Vanessa The thigh bands make the belt more secure(harder to introduce anything under the shield,reducing the risk we can feel some stimulation).The chastity bra prevents to have the breasts stimulated.Not only related to comfort.

                          Her father has the time to pick her up from school and to bring her to school, removing bra and tightbands is less time consuming and she never is alone long enough during the day. If she is not able to orgasm from breast stimulation, what is his goal beside additional restrictions? Same for the tightbands, I was never able to reach an orgasm when I was in the belt. No matter if I had tightbands or not.

                          Vanessa I agree,it is useful to prepare us to live on our own later.

                          Having some task is definitely useful but additional tasks to reduce the security of your equipment from ultra save to very very save? You have to work for a very small amount of comfort, while he doesn't give up security in a relevant amount. If he would care for your comfort you had the longest possible chain that prevents putting something under your belt.

                          Vanessa Which is different is @Sara2001 is "less reluctant" than us

                          I think because I never lived any other way.

                          Vanessa Even if I guess she would prefer to not have to wear it,she accepts it pretty well and is ready to have it on,even after married

                          For me it feels completely different after marriage. Wearing it after marriage feels like a gift for me, from me to Daniel. Wearing it now feels forced.and I feel suppressed.

                          Vanessa I guess a driver's licence is still necessary,however,to be able to control the car if there is a bug.

                          I think I will never be allowed to make a drivers license and even when cars can drive completely autonome, I will most probably not be allowed to use them for anything without permission.

                            Sara2001

                            oh man

                            so first of all the bra and the tighbands have something to do with security, my father doesn't want me to be sexually stimulated in any way πŸ™

                            this is hard and exhausting for me but I think you are connecting 2 completely different things with each other. I will not spread this discussion further because I have already presented my point of view here often and in different discussions. my father raises me to a responsible wife, while your father raises you to a submissive wife, I do not mean evil but this is just my honest opinion.

                            I have one request to you. if you want to tell me something, then please mark me directly and do not talk indirectly with others, I find that a little unfriendly because I prefer to discuss directly

                            Since I don't think we're making much progress here, I'd like to stay out of the discussion.

                              Vanessa I guess a driver's licence is still necessary

                              Of course. But I have both money and driver license πŸ™‚

                                Sara2001 Yes, I exactly know what you want to say and I would love to have it this way, but sadly that's not how my father is thinking. He thinks that woman should accept that they are much more limited then man and that making the discomfort as small as possible is a sign of remorse. The man must do everything that it is possible to wear the chastity equipment save and hygienic. He must take care that it is bearable. For example I think we will get holes in our chastity bra's, too. But from his point of view it is not necessary to make it as comfortable as possible. Especially when it takes effort for him, like opening us every day for a shower. It's right that we feel better after the shower but nobody from us ever had serious problems from only having an unbelted shower just once a week. Belted shower takes just more effort for us.

                                I think it is a very complex and unusual way to think(especially the part about making it easier for you being considered as a sign of remorse...),and not very good for you.Do your boyfriend think the same,or will he take more care to make it easier for you?

                                Sara2001 My father don't think motivation is needed because we have no choice anyway. For "motivation" he uses rules and severe punishments πŸ™

                                Not wrong,but I still think if it is easier,the wearer may be more cooperative and it would be better for both.And it would make the forced belting a bit less worse...

                                Sara2001 Her father has the time to pick her up from school and to bring her to school, removing bra and tightbands is less time consuming and she never is alone long enough during the day. If she is not able to orgasm from breast stimulation, what is his goal beside additional restrictions? Same for the tightbands, I was never able to reach an orgasm when I was in the belt. No matter if I had tightbands or not.

                                I don't say it is very useful(but it should be in a family where her parents can bring and pick her up to/from school,she should not be able to orgasm by stimulating her breasts,not doing it secretly at night or when going out...A lot of conditions!),but these have a reason related to chastity,it is not only used to make it harder.

                                I was never able to orgasm with my chastity belt on too,but thigh bands prevent to be stimulated too(even without reaching orgasm and being more frustrated).

                                Sara2001 Having some task is definitely useful but additional tasks to reduce the security of your equipment from ultra save to very very save? You have to work for a very small amount of comfort, while he doesn't give up security in a relevant amount. If he would care for your comfort you had the longest possible chain that prevents putting something under your belt.

                                It could help to understand there is cost to privileges,even if I'm not sure I would agree with it.But,for @Angelina's case,the additionnal tasks quickly become different ones,more pleasant and useful for her,so not that bad.

                                Sara2001 I think because I never lived any other way.

                                Yes,it probably play,at least,a part on it.

                                Sara2001 For me it feels completely different after marriage. Wearing it after marriage feels like a gift for me, from me to Daniel. Wearing it now feels forced.and I feel suppressed.

                                I can understand it.I think too the feelings can be very different when doing it after marriage instead of because of parents' decison.

                                Sara2001 I think I will never be allowed to make a drivers license and even when cars can drive completely autonome, I will most probably not be allowed to use them for anything without permission.

                                Even your boyfriend wouldn't accept you to drive?It is very old-fashioned and restrictive...I hope there isn't too many rules like this one...

                                Angelina so first of all the bra and the tighbands have something to do with security, my father doesn't want me to be sexually stimulated in any way πŸ™

                                I agree.It is very related to chastity,and to prevent stimulation(and,unhappily,these do their jobs very well...).

                                Laura

                                If you decide to buy one,please tell us your opinion(for example,in the "just chatting" thread),it would be interesting.