curious It is formally the second highest office in the country after the President, but considering nobody gives a damn about who our president is when the chancellor handles most of the governing, nobody can be blamed for not knowing about her.

    youdontknowme the chancellor

    I was just reading about Merkel visiting Bush the younger in 2006. She lasted a long time compared to our people.

      Speaking of US politics... I see George Santos flashed a white power symbol in parliament.

      I'm not really surprised given that these people will do anything to "own the libs", but regardless of your political persuasion, the fact that this is even remotely accepted by an elected representative shows just how far US civil society has descended.

        Sin find it somewhat fascinating that that sign is basically designed to be plausibly deniable as an OK sign, and that displaying it in a less overt way sort of makes the message more clear.

        Avery I was just reading about Merkel visiting Bush the younger in 2006. She lasted a long time compared to our people.

        Yeah, we do not have term limits for chancellor, only for president, who can serve two terms at most. And experience and not rocking the boat are big pluses on the conservative side of the spectrum, so Adenauer, Kohl and Merkel each had long tenures of four terms each.

        Sin shows just how far US civil society has descended.

        Nah, the January 6, 2020 riots, when thugs invaded the Capitol Building, overpowered Capitol police, and chased the vice president and his guards into a bomb shelter is a better example.

        youdontknowme
        I am aware of the position of that office, however, I live in Switzerland not Germany. So giving - as you call it - a damn about who holds that office currently is from where I am perfectly OK. If I was living in Germany of course, I should know and care who is part of 'my' government.

          curious Yeah, only two reasons the world knows so much about about US leaders other than President and maybe Secretary of State is because the current dysfunctional situation has such global impacts and the internet can be very US-centric. I assume German speakers outside of Germany might be exposed to some of the bigger gaffes from our politicians, but all the stuff that works as expected gets fairly little attention.

          Meanwhile, I would assume that if you asked Americans about who the president of Germany is, the vast majority of responses wozld be empty or nonsensical, and almost everyone who did give a sensible response would name a current or former chancellor.

            youdontknowme
            My view on that is:
            Knowing how the political system and government in the most powerful / influential country on this planet works is part of general knowledge that I think everyone should have.
            Who is in a given position at a given point in time, is something completely different.
            It might or might not be relevant for a better understanding of the day to day political issues but is definitely not part of general knowledge that you would expect or at least hope everyone to have.

            youdontknowme Only that I expect him to be a lot more partisan in the way he runs the house than her.

            I once read that he would still remain majority leader, so it would be as if "Bundestagspräsident" and "Fraktionsvorsitzender" were the same person, then it is clear that he is more partisan.

            youdontknowme but considering nobody gives a damn about who our president is when the chancellor handles most of the governing,

            because both the president and the Bundestag president are purely representative offices in the public perception, but I can tell you that even 50% of Germans would not know if I asked who the Bundestag president is.

            curious If I was living in Germany of course, I should know and care who is part of 'my' government.

            it would be nice, most people don't even know which politicians are from which party.

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              @Ines Re: "Useful links" - Very good post to have in this forum. Good job.

              However I assume: "Anyone has right..." should be "No one has the right..."

                Ines
                Could you add my posting about German law. It helps to get a perspective on one's own situation and helps to put things in perspective.
                link

                @Avery I was finally able to take your advice RE the CellMate device.

                  bdsamm I was finally able to take your advice RE the CellMate device.

                  Excellent.

                    Avery Yes, I had been in it long enough but, it is the most comfortable one except when the erection problem arises. So, I do miss it.

                    Ines

                    even if we don't always agree, i have to give you a big compliment here, it's good that you posted these links and that every user can find them easily 🙂

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                    Angelina it would be nice, most people don't even know which politicians are from which party.

                    Which again is telling by itself.
                    Parties in Germany are no longer the defining factor around politics. It seems rather pretty much all the same and only the degree of self-dealing and dishonesty varies.

                    If politicians believe and act like there is one set of rules for them and a different one for ordinary people, the system is on it's way to failure. And I am afraid, I see exactly this development in Germany and even more so in the US.

                      curious

                      the problem is that many people vote only on the basis of sympathy. if someone does not seem friendly, he/she has almost no chance with the voters, even if he/she would fulfil the office well.

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                      @Kaja I don't know anything about Czech politics but Petr Pavel is pretty hot and I for one am glad the Silver Fox is dominating the news cycle! 💓