Max9

abstinence belt means that it is not worn permanently and therefore mastubation is possible and "only" sex is prevented

      HHelen I haven't decided about it yet.

      Has your belt been delivered yet?

          Angelina

          Or it is worn permanently,but the secondary shield is taken off when there is no risk of having sex,like at home,while her boyfriend/girlfriend is not with her.

          HHelen I haven't decided about it yet.

          You should decide if there would be consequences if you manage to cheat on your belt before you start wearing it(maybe during the training).

                Vanessa Or it is worn permanently,but the secondary shield is taken off when there is no risk of having sex,like at home,while her boyfriend/girlfriend is not with her.

                that's true, but I was more concerned with the result (sex no masturbation yes)

                    Angelina Has your belt been delivered yet?

                    Today.

                    Vanessa You should decide if there would be consequences if you manage to cheat on your belt before you start wearing it

                    I don't think it's necessary.

                          Angelina

                          Which is possible if the secondary shield is taken off when alone,too.

                          HHelen Today.

                          Good.Would you start the training soon?

                          HHelen I don't think it's necessary.

                          Do you think the feeling of disappointment or shame you may feel if breaking the agreement by opening would be enough?

                          Angelina

                          Good question.

                                    Vanessa Which is possible if the secondary shield is taken off when alone,too.

                                    I never doubted it. 🙂

                                      HHelen Doing it now.

                                      Good,let us know how it goes!

                                      Angelina

                                      I agree.Maybe her mother,as she knows about her use of chastity belt?

                                            Vanessa I agree.Maybe her mother,as she knows about her use of chastity belt?

                                            I would still think it very fair if her daughter got the key. 😉

                                                HHelen She thinks the same

                                                Does she like to see the belt on you?

                                                  HHelen She thinks the same, but not me.

                                                  what are your concerns? As long as you have your daughter's keys, she has no leverage.

                                                    HHelen She thinks the same, but not me.

                                                    If I was your daughter I wouldn't trust you in this either.

                                                      HHelen She thinks the same, but not me.

                                                      A better way would be for you to use numbered tags, so the decision is always yours when you "need" an opening, but you remain morally accountable as an example to her.

                                                          Rick A better way would be for you to use numbered tags

                                                          But she would ask for the same.

                                                              Well, a numbered tag can be removed, a lock can't. So as she's younger and needs more protection because of that ... that might be an argument you can use.