Christine What do you mean both? I don't have such option at all.

I mean if you want to have orgasms occasionally than you could do it to reduce the urge. If not, then you both need locks and someine who doesn't loose the keys

      Laura You are probably talking about @HHelen

      i think we have to separate the colours more clearly, i have mixed up the two already several times 😂

          HHelen Without the secondary shields

          Secondary shield is useless when you have a key from it.

              Angelina

              Why?Both have it on,without their keys.

              Angelina

              It happened once or twice for me too!😉

              HHelen Right. Without the secondary shields.

              So,possible to relieve the urges easily!😉

                      Vanessa Why?Both have it on,without their keys.

                      because she has leverage over her daughter, but not vice versa

                          HHelen

                          so you always wear your belt without the secondary shield?

                          did you find an external key holder for your belt in the meantime ?

                              Christine I doubt she wears it at all.

                              Me too, but I want to give her a fair chance

                                Angelina

                                It is the case for several of us,however...

                                HHelen

                                Not yet,but it is planned?

                                Anyway,as it is an abstinence belt,it would be only on some circumstances,I guess.

                                Christine

                                Nothing prove she wears it,but nothing prove she doesn't,so I decided to trust her a bit.

                                        Vanessa It is the case for several of us,however...

                                        that's true, but it doesn't mean it's a good system 😉

                                            HHelen

                                            Maybe you should wear it when leaving the house,to have it on when she has to wear it too,to be more fair.

                                            Angelina

                                            I still think it is better than exchanging the keys(for the reasons I've already explained).😉

                                                  Vanessa I still think it is better than exchanging the keys(for the reasons I've already explained).

                                                  well i am of a different opinion and also i have explained the reasons very often 😉