Laura You are probably talking about @HHelen

i think we have to separate the colours more clearly, i have mixed up the two already several times 😂

      HHelen Without the secondary shields

      Secondary shield is useless when you have a key from it.

          Angelina

          Why?Both have it on,without their keys.

          Angelina

          It happened once or twice for me too!😉

          HHelen Right. Without the secondary shields.

          So,possible to relieve the urges easily!😉

                  Vanessa Why?Both have it on,without their keys.

                  because she has leverage over her daughter, but not vice versa

                      HHelen

                      so you always wear your belt without the secondary shield?

                      did you find an external key holder for your belt in the meantime ?

                          Christine I doubt she wears it at all.

                          Me too, but I want to give her a fair chance

                            Angelina

                            It is the case for several of us,however...

                            HHelen

                            Not yet,but it is planned?

                            Anyway,as it is an abstinence belt,it would be only on some circumstances,I guess.

                            Christine

                            Nothing prove she wears it,but nothing prove she doesn't,so I decided to trust her a bit.

                                    Vanessa It is the case for several of us,however...

                                    that's true, but it doesn't mean it's a good system 😉

                                        HHelen

                                        Maybe you should wear it when leaving the house,to have it on when she has to wear it too,to be more fair.

                                        Angelina

                                        I still think it is better than exchanging the keys(for the reasons I've already explained).😉

                                              Vanessa I still think it is better than exchanging the keys(for the reasons I've already explained).

                                              well i am of a different opinion and also i have explained the reasons very often 😉