Time between climax

Sara2001

Vanessa However,it is important to have enough cleaning breaks,for hygiene and health.A keyholder should take care of it,and accept as much supervised showers as needed.

I completely agree, but I have only one supervised shower without the belt for years now with absolutely no exceptions. So I have to say that one supervised shower per week is all that is needed and anything more is for the wearer convince.

Vanessa During period,it is very important to have more cleaning breaks,I think.

My experience is that it is possible to clean yourself well enough with the belt on. I would not suggest it as a default, but I do it like this for years. It is time consuming but it is possible and I have no hygienic problems.

Angelina

Sara2001 So I have to say that one supervised shower per week is all that is needed

hmm i still find it unhygienic during the period and in summer when we sweat a lot. but this is probably just my personal feeling

Vanessa

Angelina mostly yes, at least when I explain to him why it is urgently necessary

Good,even if not pleasant if you have to explain it everytime.

Angelina or even more, better too much than too low

Sure.

Sara2001 completely agree, but I have only one supervised shower without the belt for years now with absolutely no exceptions. So I have to say that one supervised shower per week is all that is needed and anything more is for the wearer convince.

So,it wouldn't change when married?

Sara2001 My experience is that it is possible to clean yourself well enough with the belt on. I would not suggest it as a default, but I do it like this for years. It is time consuming but it is possible and I have no hygienic problems.

Sure,but I think it should be considered as a valid exception,and so,allow more supervised showers.

Sara2001

I shower with my chastity belt on more often during summer or when I've my period too,but I like to add some more supervised showers without my chastity belt on too.

Sara2001

Angelina hmm i still find it unhygienic during the period and in summer when we sweat a lot. but this is probably just my personal feeling

I like to shower more then once a day when it is very hot in summer or especially when I have my period. I don't feel unhygienic.

Angelina

Sara2001

well, i always shower exactly once a day at a set time. anything else would disrupt my schedule 🙂

Vanessa even if not pleasant if you have to explain it everytime.

now in summer he also sweats and that girls from a certain age have their period is not new

Katie

You still have that every 30 days, right?

Sara2001

Vanessa So,it wouldn't change when married?

I don't think so.

Vanessa I shower with my chastity belt on more often during summer or when I've my period too,but I like to add some more supervised showers without my chastity belt on too.

I would like it, too. But not having this opportunity doesn't make me unhappy. It is not very likely.

Vanessa

Sara2001 I don't think so.

Not very good!🙁

Sara2001 I would like it, too. But not having this opportunity doesn't make me unhappy. It is not very likely.

Maybe it doesn't bother you much because you're used to not be allowed...

Sara2001

It's your choice,but you did it because your boyfriend wants it.

Sara2001 Like waiting 4 weeks or so and deciding then if you want to continue.

I agree,she should have the possibility to decide to stop wearing it if she doesn't want to.But it is more than 3 months since she accepted it.

However,@Katie,what would happen if you tell your mother you want to have it off,and,if she doesn't give you the keys immediately,you would destroy the belt anyway?Would there be consequences,or not much?

mekekelo

obviously women should be allowed to climax whenever they please. It's their bodies, they are sentient human beings.

Sara2001

mekekelo obviously women should be allowed to climax whenever they please. It's their bodies, they are sentient human beings.

Then why shouldn't we be allowed to consensually give up climax?

Katie

Sara2001 it’s not consensual for me any more, I really want to climax

Valadar

Sara2001 Of course you should be able to its your body and if you wish to do so because of your partner, then it is indeed your choice 🙂

mekekelo

Sara2001 No one here is forcing anyone to have orgasms. Doing that is called rape.
What I said is women should be allowed to orgasm whenever they want, because it is their bodies. It is no one elses concern.
We only live once, our lives on this rock hurdling through space is short. We as human beings should make the best we can of our lives, be the happiest we can be. If someone denies us our human rights because of their sick idea of morality, it takes away a part of our lives.

Obviously if you want to wear a chastity belt as a fetish or whatever other reason, no one should stop you. But no one should be forced to wear it. Period.

Sara2001

Katie Sara2001 it’s not consensual for me any more, I really want to climax

Yes, there should be a path for getting rid of the chastity belt, even when you agreed to wear it before. Like waiting 4 weeks or so and deciding then if you want to continue.

Sara2001

Vanessa I agree,she should have the possibility to decide to stop wearing it if she doesn't want to.But it is more than 3 months since she accepted it.

Yes, 4 weeks are just an example. I think 3 month or half a year can be okay, too. Depending on what you define.

Vanessa

Sara2001

Not sure her mother would accept to define it now.Maybe more if they have decided it before she started to wear her chastity belt...

Angelina now in summer he also sweats and that girls from a certain age have their period is not new

So you don't have to tell him everytime why you want more supervised showers?

Sara2001 I think I know best what it means to be a forced wearer.

Yes,you would be one of the few members here who had to wear it reluctantly,then wear it consensually!

Sara2001 I don't support forced wearing, but here are many people who got used to their situation in a sense that they are not really happy about their situation but wouldn't call it a ruined and extremely controlled life.

I agree.I don't like to have to wear my chastity belt,but,except it,I'm pretty happy in my life.

Angelina i don't quite agree with the word ruined, i have similarly strict rules as sara, but i would never say that my life is ruined. it's only a part of my life where i have limitations, but there are many things in life that make me happy. i know that wasn't directed at me, but i think sara feels similar

It's mainly how I feel too.

Valadar they would never risk hurting their relationship with their parents no matter how much they struggle with their limitations.

I agree,it seems to be the case for several of us here(including me).

Sara2001

mekekelo Sara2001 No one here is forcing anyone to have orgasms. Doing that is called rape.

I never talked about forced orgasms or rape. I talked about the freedom of giving up orgasms.

mekekelo What I said is women should be allowed to orgasm whenever they want, because it is their bodies. It is no one elses concern.

Then, if the woman decides that she only wants to orgasm when her partner wants it? Why shouldn't this be her free choice. Free choice means that I can decide against it if I want to.

mekekelo We only live once, our lives on this rock hurdling through space is short. We as human beings should make the best we can of our lives, be the happiest we can be. If someone denies us our human rights because of their sick idea of morality, it takes away a part of our lives.

I do what makes me happy with the partner I have choosen myself. I am not forced to wear my equipment by him but currently are by my father. After marriage I wear my equipment consensually. I know what I am doing and I have the choice to do something else. Wearing the equipment for my husband and giving up the power to get out of it is my free choice. Why should all people live the same lifestyle? What makes you happy is not necessarily what makes others happy. I don't promote this lifestyle to be best for everyone. It is sometimes very difficult. But for me it is also extremely fulfilling. My choice, my life.

mekekelo But no one should be forced to wear it. Period.

I have never said, that someone should be forced. I am strictly against forcing someone to wear it. I think I know best what it means to be a forced wearer.

Sara2001

mekekelo What I said is women should be allowed to orgasm whenever they want, because it is their bodies. It is no one elses concern.

Here

mekekelo someone denies us our human rights because of their sick idea of morality, it takes away a part of our lives.

Here

mekekelo I specifically said that women should be allowed to orgasm whenever they want.

Here

All these posts doesn't sound like you see wearing a chastity belt as a valid choice for a woman.

mekekelo

Sara2001 You're not understanding what I am saying.
I am trying to say that women, like any human being has a choice to do whatever they want.
If you could show where in any of my previous replies I said you couldn't "choose to not have orgasms" that'd be great, because I never said that.

I specifically said that women should be allowed to orgasm whenever they want. If you really want to not orgasm, then fine, never said you couldn't do that.
My whole argument here is that no one should be forced into anything they aren't comfortable with.

You say "What makes you happy doesn't necessarily make others happy", which I agree with, but you make it sound like we disagree on this. If you're happy about your eqipment, then that's fine, but many others aren't, their lives are being controlled and ruined by morally sick parents.

Ines

mekekelo
I agree100%

Sara2001

mekekelo If you could show where in any of my previous replies I said you couldn't "choose to not have orgasms" that'd be great, because I never said that.

The sentence before this sentence sounds very much like that. This sentence is in any of your posts here.

mekekelo My whole argument here is that no one should be forced into anything they aren't comfortable with.

I never said anything against this. The opposite is the case.

mekekelo but many others aren't, their lives are being controlled and ruined by morally sick parents.

I kind of agree, but as a forced wearer I have to disagree that forced wearing automatically and always means a ruined life. I don't support forced wearing, but here are many people who got used to their situation in a sense that they are not really happy about their situation but wouldn't call it a ruined and extremely controlled life. The world is not black and white.

Angelina

mekekelo being controlled and ruined

i don't quite agree with the word ruined, i have similarly strict rules as sara, but i would never say that my life is ruined. it's only a part of my life where i have limitations, but there are many things in life that make me happy. i know that wasn't directed at me, but i think sara feels similar

Sara2001 but here are many people who got used to their situation in a sense that they are not really happy about their situation but wouldn't call it a ruined

thank you, exactly what I mean 🙂

mekekelo

Sara2001 The sentence before this sentence sounds very much like that. This sentence is in any of your posts here.

Where? I can't really find it, could you copy and paste it?

Sara2001 I never said anything against this. The opposite is the case.

Then what is the issue?

Sara2001 I kind of agree, but as a forced wearer I have to disagree that forced wearing automatically and always means a ruined life. I don't support forced wearing, but here are many people who got used to their situation in a sense that they are not really happy about their situation but wouldn't call it a ruined and extremely controlled life. The world is not black and white.

Forcing someone to wear something so intrusive, against their own will, that limits their life in such a way will always in one way or another reduce the wearers quality of life. It s therefore immoral.
I really wouldn't say that someone getting used to their situation is a good thing to be honest. Many people get used to abusive partners for instance. It isn't their fault either, it is the fault of the person who put them in a bad situation to begin with.

Sara2001

Angelina thank you, exactly what I mean

Thank you. His point of view sounds to black and white to me. His core opinion is correct, but I have the feeling that he doesn't want to see that there is a lot of grey between black and white.

Valadar

Angelina i don't quite agree with the word ruined, i have similarly strict rules as sara, but i would never say that my life is ruined. it's only a part of my life where i have limitations, but there are many things in life that make me happy. i know that wasn't directed at me, but i think sara feels similar

@mekekelo From my understanding when forced wearing of chastity belt is part of upbringing, I think the situation is indeed quite complex and it is difficult for us who have never had this as our upbringing to understand. My understanding is although they hate the chastity belt and the limitations it give, they understand why their parents have done it, in order to make sexual gratification about their future partners not themselves.

Yes it is different from the norm of society which encourages self gratification etc and yes it does appear quite the challenge but the common denominator I have ascertained from the forum is they would never risk hurting their relationship with their parents no matter how much they struggle with their limitations.

When it comes to voluntarily submitting to not having orgasms in a romantic relationship, it is consensual and the person who is submissive actually has a sense of fulfillment at giving up that right for her partner.

mekekelo

Angelina

Angelina i don't quite agree with the word ruined, i have similarly strict rules as sara, but i would never say that my life is ruined. it's only a part of my life where i have limitations, but there are many things in life that make me happy. i know that wasn't directed at me, but i think sara feels similar

I would say it ruins a part of a persons life, because it robs the person of their teenage years, years that could have been spent on getting to know yourself.
A big part of life is making mistakes, you learn from your mistakes. Even without making mistakes, the equipment denies a person the ability to get to know their own body, their own limitations and so on and so forth.
Even non-sexual things become limited, like swimming, sports, clothing and so on. It limits personal freedom.

Of course, one can still live a fulfilling life, still be happy, very happy even. But those things you lose, you won't ever get back. You live only once, so it is a shame that narrow minded parents take that away.

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