Sara2001

you understood me - i meant exactly such "valuation-neutral" situations. good that you can talk about it 🙂

Sara2001 Only if I use the way before telling that I found it.

i think it could be very difficult for you not to use this way or ?

        Angelina i think it could be very difficult for you not to use this way or ?

        I never found a way, so that's a very theoretical question 🙂 I am not sure how difficult it is. I don't think that I would feel good when using it. I feel like it's a form of cheating. Daniel doesn't want me to have an orgasm or sexual stimulation by playing with myself, so I don't play with myself. I am horny enough from other situations, like when he plays with my breasts.

        Megan This is his answer:
        I think this is a complete different way to maintain a relationship. I don't think it would fit to our lifestyle. For us, the existence of limitations and punishments are an aspect we enjoy very much. Both of us think it's very sexy that there are awfull consequences for her, if she doesn't act as expected. We often talk about it, we want this kind of pressure and structure in our relationship. We want to feel that I have much more power then she has, that things are no longer her free choice.
        From what I can see, she is happier then ever in our dynamic and she is living under the strictest rules she ever had, much stricter then her mother's rules or any other setup that was ever used in her home. She makes very clear to me, that she likes the feeling of having a tough and very clear structure in her life and that she enjoys that she must only follow my rules and orders and doesn't have to worry much about other things.

              Sara2001

              unfortunately i know myself that it is only a theoretical question. i think it is very good that you respect daniel so much that you will not use this way, even though i understand that it would be very hard

                Sara2001 Difficult question. Most probably not. Only if I use the way before telling that I found it.

                Good,so.Would you be able to not use the possibility to give you self-pleasure before reporting it?

                Sara2001 It's useful, it became kind of a mantra or at least it works similar.

                I can understand it.

                Sara2001 Yes, anything else would be irresponsible or disobedient. That's how it's working.

                Good too,so.

                Megan I complained and pushed back against every little thing that my Fiance did until we finally made love.

                So you were allowed to be intimate with him,even if not married?

                          Vanessa Good,so.Would you be able to not use the possibility to give you self-pleasure before reporting it?

                          I think this would depend on the way, but I think I would not use it anyway 🙂

                              Sara2001 but I think I would not use it anyway 🙂

                              this definitely shows that you have a great respect for daniel and i mean that in a very positive way 🙂

                                  Angelina this definitely shows that you have a great respect for daniel and i mean that in a very positive way 🙂

                                  Yes, I think I would destroy an important part of the trust between us. It's not an option for me.

                                      Sara2001

                                      hmm i did some thinking and thought about how i could accept to continue wearing the complete equipment after the wedding (only in theory). i would probably have to change my belt settings completely and see the whole thing for other reasons. i wonder how you can do that. you have always worn the equipment involuntarily and you do it voluntarily after the wedding. i would find that difficult. i understand why you do it, but i would have to change my whole character to do that

                                          Angelina I don't know why it wasn't such a big step then I had expected 2-3 years ago. I don't really have a valid explanation.

                                          For me it is something completely different. I know I am able to do it, so why not? I think maybe it has to do with how I was raised. My mother is a very strong and happy person and I have known about her situation for many many years now. I don't know. Maybe because of this, I am more open to it.

                                              Sara2001

                                              hmm maybe i'm just too limited to think that the belt has something to do with my father. i think if i kept wearing the belt after my wedding, i would feel like i was married to my father somehow. i can't get away from it. so i would have to completely change my feelings about the belt

                                                  Sara2001

                                                  It would need big willpower!

                                                  Angelina

                                                  Sure,for using it after the wedding,we should feel differently about it,and why we're wearing it.

                                                  Angelina i would have to completely change my feelings about the belt

                                                  It would not change your feeling if your keyholder is your wife?

                                                          Sara2001 I think this is a complete different way to maintain a relationship. I don't think it would fit to our lifestyle. For us, the existence of limitations and punishments are an aspect we enjoy very much. Both of us think it's very sexy that there are awfull consequences for her, if she doesn't act as expected. We often talk about it, we want this kind of pressure and structure in our relationship. We want to feel that I have much more power then she has, that things are no longer her free choice.
                                                          From what I can see, she is happier then ever in our dynamic and she is living under the strictest rules she ever had, much stricter then her mother's rules or any other setup that was ever used in her home. She makes very clear to me, that she likes the feeling of having a tough and very clear structure in her life and that she enjoys that she must only follow my rules and orders and doesn't have to worry much about other things.

                                                          Yes I think she is happier since she met you and so maybe this is the sort of relationship she needs. I would just throw in that you don't need to "feel" like you have more power over her you do have more power over her. After hearing about everything in your lives I think I could keep giving more of myself to my husband.
                                                          I would remind you that the most power my husband has over me is when he pleasures me. you should unlock Sara without any warning and give her a deep g-spot orgasm. Along with the surprise of being belted as ever one minute and then completely nude seconds later and then shaking and screaming a few minutes later and falling out of the chair I can confirm that your power would not be questioned at all. Love isn't a race to dominate Sarah more than her mother!

                                                            Vanessa Sure,for using it after the wedding,we should feel differently about it,and why we're wearing it.

                                                            for me it is still a symbol of distrust, if my wife would ask me about it, i would ask back why she does not trust me anymore

                                                            Vanessa It would not change your feeling if your keyholder is your wife?

                                                            no, see first answer 🙂

                                                                  Angelina for me it is still a symbol of distrust, if my wife would ask me about it, i would ask back why she does not trust me anymore

                                                                  For me it has nothing to do with mistrust. I see it as a kind of gift to him. He know that I wouldn't have an orgasm without his permission even if I don't have to wear a belt, but I know that he loves how the belt restricts me or more precise, that I accept this for him.

                                                                      Sara2001 I see it as a kind of gift to him.

                                                                      I understand it, but I cannot transfer it to myself. camryn once asked me if i would consider it a gift if she continued to wear the belt after the wedding, so she looks at it the same way you do. i declined because i see it very differently

                                                                          Angelina , if my wife would ask me about it, i would ask back why she does not trust me anymore

                                                                          Would she be able to make you understand it is not related to mistrust(if it's not the case)?

                                                                          Sara2001 it has nothing to do with mistrust.

                                                                          I agree,there can be many reasons for it.

                                                                          Angelina camryn once asked me if i would consider it a gift if she continued to wear the belt after the wedding

                                                                          Pretty sweet to suggest it,not knowing if you would like it.

                                                                                  Vanessa Would she be able to make you understand it is not related to mistrust(if it's not the case)?

                                                                                  she knows that it would be the only reason for me to wear a belt again after the wedding. she knows my feelings about the belt

                                                                                  Vanessa Pretty sweet to suggest it,not knowing if you would like it.

                                                                                  i have also told her that she can of course wear the belt and i would be willing to take on the role of key holder, but if she does then she should do it for herself and not for me, it is a sweet gesture but not necessary for me

                                                                                        Angelina she knows that it would be the only reason for me to wear a belt again after the wedding. she knows my feelings about the belt

                                                                                        And in this case,you would accept it?

                                                                                        Angelina i have also told her that she can of course wear the belt and i would be willing to take on the role of key holder, but if she does then she should do it for herself and not for me, it is a sweet gesture but not necessary for me

                                                                                        Of course,it should be willingly,and only if she likes it.

                                                                                              Vanessa And in this case,you would accept it?

                                                                                              probably yes, but only if she sees no other way out and if that is the case, we urgently need to have many conversations. but yes for a limited time i would accept

                                                                                                  Angelina probably yes, but only if she sees no other way out and if that is the case, we urgently need to have many conversations. but yes for a limited time i would accept

                                                                                                  Understandable.Good you would have several talks too!