a_father They just make it unnecessarily difficult for her to find a partner. I don't know the reasons, but that has something to do with the fact that you can't let go of your daughter or treat her like your property.

You can say the same about me. I wish to be invited to the club.

Angelina will happen

I'm the next in line.

        HHelen Aside from the obvious circumstance of marriage, what are the situations in which a parent’s belting authority ends, in your view? I don’t get the impression that Laura, for instance, relies on her parents for financial support, yet at her age she remains locked by her parents and my guess is that the only real reason she accepts the belt is in order to please them. (Which is admittedly a powerful motivator, but I don’t think they have any moral standing to demand she remain belted.)

            Saintprudence the only real reason she accepts the belt is in order to please them

            Pretty close, but also other members of my family, e.g. being a good girl in their eyes

            Saintprudence but I don’t think they have any moral standing to demand she remain belted

            Of course not. But every time I'm asked why I need the belt off. They see only one reason for it and refuse

                  Laura You are 29 years old. They have no right to refuse. What would happen, if you insist in removing the belt? Would you be banned by the family?

                      a_father What would happen, if you insist in removing the belt?

                      It would be clear what it was for

                      a_father Would you be banned by the family?

                      Not banned, but lose the important connections

                            Saintprudence but then, I CAN be released if I really wanted

                            Everybody here can if really needs, but @a_father wants to discuss something else 😃

                            Laura They see only one reason for it and refuse

                            Tell them you consider the belt(not virginity) as a shame.

                                  Renita the belt(not virginity)

                                  one doesn't really work without the other. the belt is the reason for this. to see the belt as a separate shame is very difficult (just my opinion)

                                    🤣

                                    Angelina i think so too, living alone is an important part of living independently and the more independent we are the more likely we are to marry 🙂

                                    I agree.

                                    Ines

                                    🤣

                                    Laura

                                    😉

                                    Laura Of course not. But every time I'm asked why I need the belt off. They see only one reason for it and refuse

                                    Sure,difficult to convince them it is for another reason,in your case.

                                    Laura Not banned, but lose the important connections

                                    With your parents,like for several of us here?

                                    Renita Everybody here can if really needs

                                    I agree.

                                    Renita Tell them you consider the belt(not virginity) as a shame.

                                    As she wears it without this feeling during years,they probably would find it very suspect.

                                                      Laura ironic; in the long run you and I are both belted for years as adults for the same reason — family disapproval!

                                                        Vanessa As she wears it without this feeling during years,they probably would find it very suspect.

                                                        She can refer to her age.

                                                          Abby82 What's your reason(excuse) and what is their?

                                                          "How long should I wear it?" from my side, and "you only need to take it off for sex" from their side

                                                              Laura Long story short, they don't care

                                                              but it does matter. there is a big difference between being denied sex and masturbation, your parents should consider this

                                                                  Laura I think @Laura you don't want to understand what I'm saying. If a daughter is your age, parents certainly don't have a say in your lifestyle. I would ask them if they don't believe you are taking care of yourself. I wouldn't use shame as an argument, just the fact that you feel patronized. You are 29 years old and they don't allow you to control your body. It's not about sex, just about the rights to yours body. If they get older, the relationship will turn around. At some point you have to take care of them. Now is the time to meet at eye level. There is no more room for your belt. Now clear what do I want to say? If not, I will probably not reach you. In Germany we have a funny saying that applies: 'I don't have enough colored pencils to explain it to you.' I don't know whether the sentence makes sense in English.

                                                                      a_father 'I don't have enough colored pencils to explain it to you.

                                                                      i am also from germany, but i have never heard this saying before. but it is a good one, i will remember it 😂

                                                                          a_father We do have a variation in English: "I don't have enough crayons to explain it to you."