Max9 What is actually so important about sex? I mean - the only important thing you really need are hugs and cuddles.

it is another piece of the puzzle in a happy marriage/relationship πŸ™‚

Max9

please stop with bavarian, i even understand english better πŸ˜‚

Max9 I don't plan to have sex before marriage / being engaged.

just like me, only with you it's voluntary πŸ˜‰

Joh I am lucky engaged πŸ˜€ including all.

then also hopefully soon married πŸ˜ƒ

Vanessa Please write in english.Most of people would not understand

even i as a german do not understand it (its bavaria) πŸ˜‰

    Max9
    In which language is my question?

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      Angelina it is another piece of the puzzle in a happy marriage/relationship

      I agreed.

      Angelina then also hopefully soon married

      We don't see the necessity but we are in discussion. Maybe later.

        Max9

        Max9 "BlΓΆdsinn" is german

        Yes, it is.

        Joh BlΓΆdsinn
        There is a big different between good sex and only hugs and cuddles. If you didn't expiriance it it looks like you had not good sex.

        And my question was in English.

        Max9 You asked me in German so I answered in Bavarian

        You see now I didn't ask you in German. Only my first response was it.

          Joh We don't see the necessity but we are in discussion. Maybe later.

          i hope it is soon and that you give us a little report πŸ˜‰

          Joh You see now I didn't ask you in German. Only my first response was it.

          BlΓΆdsinn = Nonsense πŸ˜ƒ

          • Joh replied to this.

            Angelina i hope it is soon and that you give us a little report

            What do you have in mid with 'soon'?
            Yes, if it comes to it I will write a report about our wedding.

              Joh

              Not soon,probably...πŸ™

              It would depend on how much time I need to get a long term job.

              Angelina just like me, only with you it's voluntary πŸ˜‰

              If free,how long would you have waited?

              Joh We don't see the necessity but we are in discussion. Maybe later.

              If engaged,the wedding follow;how can you be engaged,but not sure to get married?

                Vanessa how can you be engaged,but not sure to get married?

                We both have been married and know the unpleased side. We know the advantage and disadvantage and we know how much a wedding and a divorce costs. We love to be together but also see the value to be independent. We will not decide lightly but we are on the way. 😁
                I learned a lot from @Sara2001 relation and adapted the key point. It is necessary to work on the relation and talk a lot about everything. Especially about small things otherwise it will pill up to a big hill bevore you be aware of it. Our relation is improving. πŸ˜„

                  Joh What do you have in mid with 'soon'?

                  that you will marry soon, i wish that for everyone, it was just a turn of phrase πŸ˜‰

                  Vanessa If free,how long would you have waited?

                  you mean how long would i have waited if i was free? hard to say, i certainly wouldn't have had sex after the first date but i'm sure it would have happened already

                  Vanessa If engaged,the wedding follow;how can you be engaged,but not sure to get married?

                  i don't understand that either, i always thought an engagement is only the "harbinger" to a wedding.

                  Max9

                  wrong topic ????

                    Angelina i don't understand that either, i always thought an engagement is only the "harbinger" to a wedding.

                    I know a couple they are now engaged over 15 years. Today nothing is certain it is going in the way it is expected.

                      Vanessa It would depend on how much time I need to get a long term job.

                      What is the problem with finding a job for yourself?
                      Did you apply in other cities or country?
                      I thought peapole with IT skills are being sought.

                        Joh

                        hmm, i don't like it so much, but everyone has to decide for themselves

                        Max9

                        πŸ˜‰

                        Joh

                        Good you're on the way,and that the discussions on the board have helped you!πŸ™‚

                        Are you going to have a relationship similar to the one of @Sara2001 and her boyfriend?

                        Angelina you mean how long would i have waited if i was free?

                        Yes,it was what I meant,and you've answered it!πŸ˜‰

                        Joh

                        It is still uncommon.

                        Joh

                        I can get jobs easily(except presently,the COVID-19 make it harder),but it is hard to get a long-term job...Short-term jobs are easier,sure.

                          Vanessa Yes,it was what I meant,and you've answered it!πŸ˜‰

                          well, i was wondering if you meant how long it would take after the wedding, the answer would probably be one night. πŸ˜‚

                          Vanessa I can get jobs easily(except presently,the COVID-19 make it harder),but it is hard to get a long-term job...Short-term jobs are easier,sure.

                          any news (job interviews, etc.) ?

                            Vanessa Are you going to have a relationship similar to the one of @Sara2001 and her boyfriend?

                            The relationship of @Sara2001 and Daniel is men lead and our is equal right based. Nevertheless I give the direction. We'll talk about it until we have a common position. This can also take a long time. I am patient and persistent.

                            Vanessa I can get jobs easily(except presently,the COVID-19 make it harder),but it is hard to get a long-term job...Short-term jobs are easier,sure.

                            Did you search at other countries as well?

                              Joh We'll talk about it until we have a common position. This can also take a long time. I am patient and persistent.

                              well, it needs a part that is at least somewhat dominant. if i think about it, if my father and i were completely equal, we would never find a solution to problems because we are both stubborn. 🀣

                              Joh Did you search at other countries as well?

                              @Vanessa Come to Germany πŸ˜‰

                                Angelina well, i was wondering if you meant how long it would take after the wedding, the answer would probably be one night. πŸ˜‚

                                🀣

                                Angelina any news (job interviews, etc.) ?

                                Some meeting,but not successful.And,as we're confined at least 1 month now,it would be even harder.

                                Joh The relationship of @Sara2001 and Daniel is men lead and our is equal right based. Nevertheless I give the direction. We'll talk about it until we have a common position. This can also take a long time. I am patient and persistent.

                                Ok,so,it is not the sort of relationship you learned from @Sara2001 and her boyfriend,but the fact they talk together a lot?

                                Joh Did you search at other countries as well?

                                No.I don't plan to leave France.

                                Angelina @Vanessa Come to Germany πŸ˜‰

                                🀣

                                Too close to the main producers of chastity devices in Europe!πŸ˜‰