Not soon,probably...
It would depend on how much time I need to get a long term job.
Angelina just like me, only with you it's voluntary
If free,how long would you have waited?
Joh We don't see the necessity but we are in discussion. Maybe later.
If engaged,the wedding follow;how can you be engaged,but not sure to get married?
Vanessa how can you be engaged,but not sure to get married?
We both have been married and know the unpleased side. We know the advantage and disadvantage and we know how much a wedding and a divorce costs. We love to be together but also see the value to be independent. We will not decide lightly but we are on the way. 
I learned a lot from @Sara2001 relation and adapted the key point. It is necessary to work on the relation and talk a lot about everything. Especially about small things otherwise it will pill up to a big hill bevore you be aware of it. Our relation is improving. 
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This is the wrong place. Could you move it in Political Discussion
Joh What do you have in mid with 'soon'?
that you will marry soon, i wish that for everyone, it was just a turn of phrase 
Vanessa If free,how long would you have waited?
you mean how long would i have waited if i was free? hard to say, i certainly wouldn't have had sex after the first date but i'm sure it would have happened already
Vanessa If engaged,the wedding follow;how can you be engaged,but not sure to get married?
i don't understand that either, i always thought an engagement is only the "harbinger" to a wedding.
wrong topic ????
Good you're on the way,and that the discussions on the board have helped you!
Are you going to have a relationship similar to the one of @Sara2001 and her boyfriend?
Angelina you mean how long would i have waited if i was free?
Yes,it was what I meant,and you've answered it!
It is still uncommon.
I can get jobs easily(except presently,the COVID-19 make it harder),but it is hard to get a long-term job...Short-term jobs are easier,sure.
Vanessa Yes,it was what I meant,and you've answered it!
well, i was wondering if you meant how long it would take after the wedding, the answer would probably be one night. 
Vanessa I can get jobs easily(except presently,the COVID-19 make it harder),but it is hard to get a long-term job...Short-term jobs are easier,sure.
any news (job interviews, etc.) ?
The relationship of @Sara2001 and Daniel is men lead and our is equal right based. Nevertheless I give the direction. We'll talk about it until we have a common position. This can also take a long time. I am patient and persistent.
Vanessa I can get jobs easily(except presently,the COVID-19 make it harder),but it is hard to get a long-term job...Short-term jobs are easier,sure.
Did you search at other countries as well?
Joh We'll talk about it until we have a common position. This can also take a long time. I am patient and persistent.
well, it needs a part that is at least somewhat dominant. if i think about it, if my father and i were completely equal, we would never find a solution to problems because we are both stubborn. 
Joh Did you search at other countries as well?
@Vanessa Come to Germany
Angelina well, i was wondering if you meant how long it would take after the wedding, the answer would probably be one night.
Angelina any news (job interviews, etc.) ?
Some meeting,but not successful.And,as we're confined at least 1 month now,it would be even harder.
Ok,so,it is not the sort of relationship you learned from @Sara2001 and her boyfriend,but the fact they talk together a lot?
Joh Did you search at other countries as well?
No.I don't plan to leave France.
Too close to the main producers of chastity devices in Europe!
Yes, exactly.
The men lead relation is has a certain charm. But it can only work if both have the right character.
On the one hand, it is a very big gift from her to him which demands extremely much from her. On the other hand, he must be absolutely consistent otherwise the whole thing will not work and end in disaster. This can be a separation or a total suppression in which case she will be in such a dependence of emotional and material kind that she will not get out of it.
It is like walking on a knife's edge. I don't see it for me that I can take on that responsibility.
Vanessa No.I don't plan to leave France.
And working for a foreigner company remotely?
Angelina well, it needs a part that is at least somewhat dominant.
Not necessary. You need only the understanding and commitment to find a solution both will be happy with it. To be stubborn will not help.
Vanessa Some meeting,but not successful.And,as we're confined at least 1 month now,it would be even harder.
I wish you good luck anyway 
Vanessa Too close to the main producers of chastity devices in Europe!
Joh It is like walking on a knife's edge. I don't see it for me that I can take on that responsibility.
i agree, that's why i couldn't do the submissive or dominant part. both require a lot of work to make it work and as you said the right character is improtant.
Joh To be stubborn will not help.
I know I notice it myself sometimes, but I was brought up to always insist on my rights.
