Foxies In a real sense, all chastity devices and accessories are bondage devices. They limit choice by design. But this doesn't mean that it has anything necessarily to do with kink. Wedding rings are symbols of bondage where the wearer is bound to their partner. I do not see any kink or fetish in that.

I was not talking about kink, only about what it be for the those who are forced to wear it. For many of you it has another purpose like @Ines she feels save for @Max9 he can handle his life better for @Sara2001 now she wears if for hers bf. @Angelina is forced to wear it and she has arrange her life around it but she looks forward to getting it off.
I prefer to name it like it is and if you happy with it than go with it.

    Vanessa A masochist likes pain

    A masochist accept the pain.

        Angelina yes, but not every metal is bdsm , or would you call a saw a bdsm ?

        Please consider my answer in the whole discussion. I was not talking about metal at general I was talking about the restriction to tough yourself at you bust and sex. I also not understand piercing at it is as bondage or only BDSM related. For me it is jewellery other could use it for kink. It always depends on the point of view.

            Joh

            that's right, i would rather say that it is used as a means of education in my case, the aim being that it restricts me. other parents have other means of education that i don't have.

            and that's exactly why i can't see it as a bdsm device (although of course it is also used for bdsm). 🙂

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                Angelina yes, but not every metal is bdsm , or would you call a saw a bdsm ? 😂

                But I guess you haven't a saw locked on you!😉

                Angelina yes, that's true it seems to me that she accepts but doesn't really like it, she rather likes how happy her boyfriend is about it

                I think so.

                Ines An since someone is happy being beaten if is not masochism, it is very close.

                But what if @Sara2001 isn't happy(about her spanking)?

                Max9 Yes, that's the way I know it.

                Seems possible too,yes.

                Angelina

                I think the same.Not something I like myself,but as long as she's happy about this lifestyle and not in danger,no problem.

                However,I always felt,@Sara2001 like this lifestyle in general,but not especially the pain.

                Joh

                The definition of it is:

                masochism (countable and uncountable, plural masochisms)

                The enjoyment of receiving pain or humiliation.

                              Angelina and that's exactly why i can't see it as a bdsm device (although of course it is also used for bdsm).

                              And that is my point. It is always depended on the point of view. For an outside it looks like as a BDSM situation.

                                  Vanessa The definition of it is:

                                  masochism (countable and uncountable, plural masochisms)

                                  The enjoyment of receiving pain or humiliation.

                                  According to ICD-10, sadomasochism is considered a "disorder of sexual preference" (key F65.5), which is described there as follows:

                                  Sexual activities involving the infliction of pain, humiliation, or bondage are preferred. If the affected person suffers this type of stimulation, it is masochism; if they inflict it on someone else, it is sadism. Often the affected person experiences sexual arousal during both masochistic and sadistic activities.

                                      Vanessa But I guess you haven't a saw locked on you!😉

                                      No 🤣

                                      Vanessa However,I always felt,@Sara2001 like this lifestyle in general,but not especially the pain.

                                      if we look at the two things separately certainly not, i think the combination is the important thing for @Sara2001

                                      Joh And that is my point. It is always depended on the point of view. For an outside it looks like as a BDSM situation.

                                      for most people probably yes, i don't want to contradict you. for me it is a method of education which i don't like.

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                                              Angelina for me it is a method of education which i don't like.

                                              Describe it however you want if it makes you feel better. For me it is and remains unacceptable.

                                              If I were in that situation, I would draw the consequences. Due to the coercion the relationship, from my point of view, is destroyed and only if I would try to play with it would not repair it.

                                                  Joh Describe it however you want if it makes you feel better. For me it is and remains unacceptable.

                                                  well, for me corporal punishment would be unacceptable, but to each his/her own.

                                                  Joh Due to the coercion the relationship, from my point of view, is destroyed

                                                  no, my relationship with my father is not destroyed, other things are more important to me in this thing.

                                                        Angelina no, my relationship with my father is not destroyed, other things are more important to me in this thing.

                                                        I know and it is only my point of view. If you are happy, beside of the restriction, than it is fine for me. I hope you can handle it in this way and the restrictions ends soon.

                                                            Joh beside of the restriction, than it is fine for me. I hope you can handle it in this way and the restrictions ends soon.

                                                            that's what i mean, i often complain about it here, but that's because it's the main topic of the forum. otherwise i'm actually very happy and i know it will end after my wedding 🙂

                                                              Joh

                                                              I guess it depends if we consider more the definition of the term or the definiton of the disorder.But these are very similar,anyway.

                                                              Angelina other things are more important to me in this thing.

                                                              It is the case for most of the reluctant wearers here.If not,we would stop wearing it,even by destroying it if necessary.

                                                                    Vanessa .If not,we would stop wearing it,even by destroying it if necessary.

                                                                    that's exactly how it is, it's the consequences that scare us, not the belt as such

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