Trans and chastity

Angelina

thank you, i admit it confuses me sometimes and i don't want to write something wrong about such a sensitive topic.

Matt

Thank you both for the advice, "straight time" is a very good idea. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts with a stranger on the internet.

Angelina Sorry, we're not all experts in this field. Can you briefly explain what the abbreviation means?

@MissBlossom 's answer is correct. I am in a trans for trans relationship, but you can think of us like any other couple. If it helps, my girlfriend is like Prudence or Daphne in this thread and I am the opposite; I'm a man. I am happy to answer any questions about myself, as you all put so much about yourselves on here. If the question pertains to my girlfriend, I may ask her permission before answering, but the answer will probably be yes.

Thank you youdontknowme, Miss Blossom.

Sasha

Matt Please please forgive me if this comes out wrong, but I’m not entirely sure how else to ask.
You mentioned your t4t relationship, did you always feel this way? Or did you do it for your partner?
I am so sorry if that came out wrong, just not really sure how else I could word it

Angelina

Matt

ok, so you are a man born as a woman and she is a woman born as a man?

Matt

Sasha

Ask away! We never learn if we never question. I started taking testosterone before I met my girlfriend, and I knew that I wanted to be a man for about two years before that. Getting on T was a very lengthy process, and I often asked myself "Am I doing this to rebel against my family and church? Or because it's trendy? Or because I want to be taken seriously, and want to cheat the system by becoming a man?" and then I started living as a man, and my life got better. I love my voice now, it's so deep! Before T, when I would get angry it was always wet, helpless anger that left me teary-eyed and frustrated; now I get angry more but it's "I want to break stuff" anger, or cold, calculating anger. I'm getting stronger, I have more energy, I feel more confident. Getting rid of periods? Fantastic! There are some downsides like my butt getting hairy before anything else and the awkward mid-transition phase where you are not sure how well you pass and aren't sure which bathroom you can use, but I wanted to be a man, became one, and am happier for it.

If you mean "did you always feel this way?" about dating a woman who is trans, then I always felt some attraction towards women. Before I transitioned but after I knew about sexuality, I was probably bisexual with a slight preference towards men, and after T I would say I'm still bisexual now with a preference for women.

Dating another trans person is not uncommon, and has been an interesting experience for us both. For example, I hate crying, I have not cried in years, my girlfriend is the opposite. When women talked about a "good cry" I always thought they were weird but my GF likes the emotional release and feels refreshed and de-stressed after. She'll have a hard week at work or we'll watch a sad movie and she'll get sniffly on my shoulder, I'll comfort her, she'll feel feminine and looked after.

We both wonder occasionally why the other would give up the gender we each worked to achieve. The thing with T4T relationships is we both get it, she didn't like being an emotionally constipated stinky man (her words, not mine) any more than I enjoyed femininity with female roles and expectations.

Sorry for spamming what is supposed to be a chastity lifestyle forum with trans posts. Sasha, please let me know if I answered your question.

Sasha

Matt Sounds like an awesome relationship, happy hearing you feel fulfilled and happy. And yes it did, thank you for explaining so thoroughly

Jen

Matt now I get angry more but it's "I want to break stuff" anger

It's that a good thing? Like how is it good? Sorry yeah it's one little bit of an interesting post but I don't get why guys break stuff.

Matt What if she wants out? I would probably release her on the spot,

Begging to get out and being told no is really powerful like I have appreciated the no. But like, you wouldn't want to get it wrong.

Matt

Angelina

Yes, that's basically it. We both pass pretty well now, we look like the genders we truly are. If you saw us in the street you would probably think I was a cisgender (not trans) man and she was a cis woman.

Angelina

Matt

interesting, i wonder if trans people generally have a higher attraction to other trans people

Matt

Angelina

Maybe? I would say I know more trans people dating cis people than trans people dating other trans people, but trans folks are a small percentage of the population and I have a small sample size to draw from. If my current relationship ended, I'd be open to dating a cisgender person.

My GF and I have a lot in common and fit well together. She's smarter, and better educated than me and I am a better cook. She's very submissive and I am dominant in the bedroom, and we are both enjoy trying new, creative and kinky things. I'd like to think that we are not together just because we are both trans, but I can't say it doesn't play any part.

youdontknowme

Angelina interesting, i wonder if trans people generally have a higher attraction to other trans people

Not sure if it is attraction, or if it is just the fact that the average trans person encounters more trans people than the average cis person does by virtue of frequenting trans-inclusive spaces more.

Rina

Angelina higher attraction to other trans people

Maybe because they can understand each other better? Like things they went through?

Angelina

Matt I'd like to think that we are not together just because we are both trans, but I can't say it doesn't play any part.

probably because you can understand each other well, you know each other's situation and how the person feels. many cis people do not understand this so well.

youdontknowme

I think that is also possible, a cis person would probably rarely go to "safe spaces" for transsexuals.

Matt

youdontknowme

That definitely has something to do with it. While I sometimes felt awkward hitting on women in queer spaces as a man, that was where I met a few of my past romantic partners (though many of those were men). My GF had a trans pin on her backpack the first time I met her.

Jen It's that a good thing? Like how is it good? Sorry yeah it's one little bit of an interesting post but I don't get why guys break stuff.

It's not universally good, it's just that I prefer it to how anger felt before hormone replacement therapy. Feeling "manly" anger is validating, even if anger itself is not fun. Early on, I liked feeling dangerous and aggressive because I was taught that's the opposite of femininity, now my emotions have evened out and I am masculine without being an aggressive prick. I don't enjoy breaking stuff for the sake of destruction and I try to keep a level head.

Jen Begging to get out and being told no is really powerful like I have appreciated the no. But like, you wouldn't want to get it wrong.

Spoiler for spicy text:
If we do end up getting her a cage or a belt, it will be a sex toy rather than a prison. Probably short term use only; my girlfriend has all sorts of fantasies she wants to try and experimenting has been very good for us. Not being able to touch herself when we are not together or not being able to masturbate without my permission might be powerful and hot or she might hate it and we just throw away the chastity device. I still feel that locking someone up as a means of controlling them is wrong. Jen, reading your story has been interesting. From my understanding you are locked every night. May I ask who told you no? Why would you appreciate it?

Rina Maybe because they can understand each other better? Like things they went through?

Another good suggestion! We understand each other well, not just about trans stuff.

Edited for grammar.

Jen

Matt From my understanding you are locked every night. May I ask who told you no? Why would you appreciate it?

My Mum - they held the keys but were not my keyholders. but yeah I wanted it off for uh no good reason. It was like 2am. She convinced me to wait till morning and yeah after that I really felt stuck like I couldn't go wake her again! But it was good I got unlocked in morning but I knew I wanted to stick to my plans by then and relocked without removing. After that we agreed nights were off limits - no waking up unless a real reason. And it's easier just like knowing that option really isn't there.

Tonyand03

Matt, I can't possibly tell you whether you should lock up your girlfriend, but I do want to say that having read your correspondence, you come over as a very intelligent, responsible and empathetic person. These are the values that will help you both decide whether to embrace chastity.
The only advice I can offer is that between the two of you, society's expectations regarding such matters as misogyny and feminism are not important. What matters is only that you are doing what you both enjoy and you are not harming yourselves or anyone else.
Concerning T4T relationships, surely we all tend to associate, whether socially or romantically, with others who share our characteristics, whether it's class, ethnicity, interests, income group or of course sexuality. It would be surprising if trans people didn't have a higher percentage of relationships with other trans people than the general population.
In summary, I think your attitudes and concern for your partner do you credit and I would expect and hope that you'll both settle down to a happy relationship.
Please let us know how things work out for you both.

Jen

Tonyand03 Matt, I can't possibly tell you whether you should lock up your girlfriend, but I do want to say that having read your correspondence, you come over as a very intelligent, responsible and empathetic person. These are the values that will help you both decide whether to embrace chastity.

👍😊

Jonas

Jen And it's easier just like knowing that option really isn't there.

Exactly this.

Matt

My girlfriend and I decided against locking her in chastity for the moment, we may revisit the decision in the future.

I will probably go inactive on this forum soon, thank you all for the information and words of advice.

I can be reached at math_guy@outlook.com if you are in my area and need help. Involuntary belt wearers, please keep fighting; know that time, the law and I are on your side.

Sasha

Matt Hope you'll stop by now and then. And thanks for offering help if anyone needed it.

Laura

Matt if you are in my area and need help

In Oregon

Angelina

Matt

i hope you visit the forum again soon, until then all the best 🙂

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