Sara2001 We don't fight against my fathers rules because it is not worth it. Of course we would prefer if Daniel had the key to my belt, but beside this, not much would change.

what if your father's and daniel's instructions contradict each other. who do you have to listen to then? i know you have written several times that the two of them try to agree, but there are certainly things where they have completely different opinions, aren't there?

Joh As I wrote in another topic. I try to bring up a new view. It is on you to decide nobody else.

that's ok too, but most of the time you are just describing the problems and what solutions should ideally look like, but sometimes a compromise is the better option. 🙂

        Angelina but sometimes a compromise is the better option.

        Sure. I agree. A compromise it better than nothing but you need a goal. As a compromise implies it will be something between. If you have a low level goal the compromise will be less.

            Joh If you have a low level goal the compromise will be less.

            of course, but if they goal is too high, our parents block immediately, so there must be something in between.

                Angelina
                Correct. And now we coming their to find the right goal which make sense to fight for.

                    Angelina what if your father's and daniel's instructions contradict each other. who do you have to listen to then? i know you have written several times that the two of them try to agree, but there are certainly things where they have completely different opinions, aren't there?

                    Not much. My fathers and Daniels values are not the same but compatible. My father mostly takes care that I stay belted and orgasm free until marriage. Anything else is managed by Daniel to his satisfaction. At least almost anything. If he sets additional boundaries, we accept them.

                    Joh From what you have told us, trust is not a part of your father's vocabulary

                    If it comes to my chastity equipment trust has never bin a factor and will never be. This is not a new insight. That's how it is and I accept this, because I would be in a similar situation for Daniel anyway.

                          Sara2001 At least almost anything. If he sets additional boundaries, we accept them.

                          OK and thank you for the detail information.

                          Sara2001 because I would be in a similar situation for Daniel anyway.

                          I had also commented on this in this context. I just wonder if the responsibility is handed over at the latest when you get married.

                              Joh Correct. And now we coming their to find the right goal which make sense to fight for.

                              i agree with you, i sometimes think that we don't think so differently about the subject of chastity belts, only in the parts we are different

                              Sara2001 If he sets additional boundaries, we accept them.

                              who sets additional boundaries? your father or daniel?

                                    Angelina i agree with you, i sometimes think that we don't think so differently about the subject of chastity belts, only in the parts we are different

                                    After all the discussion and explanation we see clear what is and where it will go. I was never against chastity if it a free decision. To get e better understanding I asked the critical question. @Sara2001 and your answered became clearer and more distinct over time which placed me at easy to agree it looks good.
                                    That being said, only the future will tell where you are headed and how happy you will be.

                                    Angelina who sets additional boundaries? your father or daniel?

                                    I understood it to be her father's decision.

                                        Angelina who sets additional boundaries? your father or daniel?

                                        Daniel is normally stricter then my father, but if there is a situation where my father is stricter, Daniel takes his additional boundaries into account. But normally it's only about my chastity equipment, like that he doesn't want me to be without the chain between my tightbands while Daniel would love to do some hiking with me.

                                            Sara2001 he doesn't want me to be without the chain between my tightbands while Daniel would love to do some hiking with me.

                                            🤬😡😡

                                              Sara2001 hiking with me.

                                              Hiking is great. You miss a super experience and relaxing time in the mountains.

                                                  Joh Hiking is great. You miss a super experience and relaxing time in the mountains.

                                                  We can do it after wedding

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                                                      Sara2001 We can do it after wedding

                                                      Certainly you can. And if you keep up doing it you can do it when you over 60 or 70.
                                                      I look forward when we can travel safely again. I would like to go up Mount Fiji or Mount Kilimanjaro.

                                                        Sara2001 From his point of view, I don't have to lie to him this way, too.

                                                        Logical,but he may understand it would be more important for you to not lie to your fiancé.

                                                        Angelina

                                                        Right.

                                                        Sara2001 Not much. My fathers and Daniels values are not the same but compatible. My father mostly takes care that I stay belted and orgasm free until marriage. Anything else is managed by Daniel to his satisfaction. At least almost anything. If he sets additional boundaries, we accept them.

                                                        I guess,until marriage,your father rules would be priority,and after marriage,it would be your husband's rules,right?

                                                                Vanessa I guess,until marriage,your father rules would be priority,and after marriage,it would be your husband's rules,right?

                                                                Until marriage, my father has the final saying in anything, after marriage, only Daniel will have a saying.

                                                                    Sara2001 like that he doesn't want me to be without the chain between my tightbands while Daniel would love to do some hiking with me.

                                                                    well, then your honeymoon will be a hiking holiday 😃

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                                                                        Vanessa Not surprising;same for advices or suggestions?

                                                                        After marriage I want to completely submit to Daniel in any aspect of my life, yes. Not because I am forced into it, but because this is what I truly want and I know what I am doing and what I can expect and that if I ever become unhappy, be will be the first one who demands a change to the better. Trust is the key!!!