Vanessa

I admit the rule of @ Sara2001 is very tough. when i'm at my doctor's with my father, he waits outside with me until i'm called in. theoretically i could go to the toilet after the interview, but somehow i don't really think about it. my father could see from outside that I was going to the toilet (even if the probability is very small) and then there would be extreme consequences

Vanessa I understand it,but don't understand why he wanted the call active during the visit.You would not masturbate or surf the net while with the doctor...

Probably because he doesn't know when the talk with the doctor will end

Sara2001 It's a mixture. Because he knows that she uses any chance she has, the bra was necessary from his point of view, her boyfriend was kind of last drop to fill the bucket.

so there have been no improvements for your sister since the two are separated?

          Sara2001 Because he doesn't know how long the visit would be. I could have told him it was 15 minutes but it was only 5 minutes and I used the 10 minutes for masturbating at the toilet.

          You don't understand what I meant.You could have stopped the call right after he could hear your doctor telling you to come in his office,and call back right before he would say good bye to you.

          Sara2001 It's a mixture. Because he knows that she uses any chance she has, the bra was necessary from his point of view, her boyfriend was kind of last drop to fill the bucket.

          Ok,so,even if she hasn't dated him,she would have had to wear the chastity bra anyway,only maybe a bit later?

          HHelen

          I agree.We should not wear it(of course),and still have some privacy,when visiting a doctor.

          Angelina when i'm at my doctor's with my father, he waits outside with me until i'm called in.

          Similar for me,except my parents wait inside,so I can't go to the toiler unnoticed.

          Angelina Probably because he doesn't know when the talk with the doctor will end

          Why she should call back before going out of his office.

          Angelina so there have been no improvements for your sister since the two are separated?

          Good question.

                        Vanessa You could have stopped the call right after he could hear your doctor telling you to come in his office,and call back right before he would say good bye to you.

                        Or mute for a bit? Privacy with your doctor should be allowed.

                            Vanessa We should not wear it(of course),and still have some privacy,when visiting a doctor.

                            Also you do not go to a doctor for pleasure.

                                Vanessa Similar for me,except my parents wait inside,so I can't go to the toiler unnoticed.

                                that's how my father always did it too, it's just hard because of corona

                                Vanessa Why she should call back before going out of his office.

                                yes, I admit I didn't really understand that either, you're right

                                HHelen Also you do not go to a doctor for pleasure.

                                right, i would have to be very desperate to take that chance

                                        Jen

                                        Possible too,yes.

                                        HHelen

                                        But if we have a chance,while not usually...

                                        Angelina that's how my father always did it too, it's just hard because of corona

                                        With some social distancing and a big waiting room,it is generally accepted,I think.

                                                Vanessa You don't understand what I meant.You could have stopped the call right after he could hear your doctor telling you to come in his office,and call back right before he would say good bye to you

                                                But the doctor would have seen this. I think starting a phone call while the doctor is talking with you, would be very rude.

                                                Vanessa Ok,so,even if she hasn't dated him,she would have had to wear the chastity bra anyway,only maybe a bit later?

                                                I don't know for sure, but I think it is likely.

                                                Vanessa Similar for me,except my parents wait inside,so I can't go to the toiler unnoticed.

                                                This is how it was for me before the pandemic.

                                                Vanessa Good question.

                                                Not to much. Overall it's still the same. Many aspects are just not that important like going on parties and things like that because of the pandemic.

                                                          HHelen Also you do not go to a doctor for pleasure.

                                                          Of course not, but my father thinks an opportunity is an opportunity. After a checkup you don't have anything that impacts you from doing it, you don't feel sick or something.

                                                          Angelina right, i would have to be very desperate to take that chance

                                                          And you are not 🙂

                                                                Vanessa With some social distancing and a big waiting room,it is generally accepted,I think.

                                                                yes, but i'm with a doctor who only has a very small practice. is a family business, just like my father and me later 😉

                                                                Sara2001 I think starting a phone call while the doctor is talking with you, would be very rude.

                                                                right, i think so too, and it could also lead to strange questions

                                                                Sara2001 And you are not 🙂

                                                                at least not so much 🙂

                                                                        Sara2001 After a checkup you don't have anything that impacts you from doing it

                                                                        But an atmosphere in a doctor's office.

                                                                            HHelen But an atmosphere in a doctor's office.

                                                                            After a few years without any opportunities, a toilet in a doctor's office maybe can become an appropriate atmosphere, especially if you keep in mind that you have much more privacy at European toilet compared with American standards. At least that's what my father fears and to be honest, it's something I thought about in a way of possibilities I decided not to use for Daniel.

                                                                                Sara2001

                                                                                I can kind of understand your father, after the action your sister did in the school toilet, he doesn't want to take any more risks.

                                                                                    Sara2001 But the doctor would have seen this. I think starting a phone call while the doctor is talking with you, would be very rude.

                                                                                    Yes,but better than having no privacy.And you may tell you would prefer to know if your father is already here,or if you have to wait in the hot/cold/rain(depending on the day)...

                                                                                    Sara2001 This is how it was for me before the pandemic.

                                                                                    Very effective to be unable to cheat...

                                                                                    Angelina yes, but i'm with a doctor who only has a very small practice. is a family business, just like my father and me later 😉

                                                                                    Yes,sin this case,it would harder for him to come with you in the waiting room.

                                                                                    Sara2001 After a few years without any opportunities, a toilet in a doctor's office maybe can become an appropriate atmosphere

                                                                                    I agree!

                                                                                    Angelina

                                                                                    It probably haven't help him to trust @Sara2001 enough,yes.

                                                                                                Vanessa Yes,but better than having no privacy.And you may tell you would prefer to know if your father is already here,or if you have to wait in the hot/cold/rain(depending on the day)..

                                                                                                But why shouldn't I do this in the waiting room, especially during the pandemic I wouldn't be allowed to wait there anyway.

                                                                                                Vanessa It probably haven't help him to trust @Sara2001 enough,yes.

                                                                                                My father thinks that orgasm prevention for us has nothing to do with trust but he fears that we probably can't stand the urges, no matter what we want. He thinks supervision is necessary at all times when we are not in our belts and nothing can change it.

                                                                                                      Sara2001 But why shouldn't I do this in the waiting room, especially during the pandemic I wouldn't be allowed to wait there anyway.

                                                                                                      It may not be very logical,yes,but could allow some privacy.

                                                                                                      Sara2001 no matter what we want.

                                                                                                      It is close to not trusting you about self-control,so.

                                                                                                            Vanessa It is close to not trusting you about self-control,so.

                                                                                                            It's more that trusting us in this area is not an opinion. He strongly believe that control is better then trust is better in this area. No matter how good or bad we act.

                                                                                                                Sara2001 It's more that trusting us in this area is not an opinion. He strongly believe that control is better then trust is better in this area. No matter how good or bad we act.

                                                                                                                It is normal if you could not control yourself after being in chastity for 5 years ..
                                                                                                                so i can understand why your father didn't want to take any risks ..it has nothing to do with trust ..he knows that only control can prevent you from this and he is right in my opinion..

                                                                                                                  Sara2001 After a few years without any opportunities, a toilet in a doctor's office maybe can become an appropriate atmosphere, especially if you keep in mind that you have much more privacy at European toilet compared with American standards.

                                                                                                                  Then what's your goal? Cheat or stay chaste?

                                                                                                                      HHelen Then what's your goal? Cheat or stay chaste?

                                                                                                                      I don't want to cheat anyway, but not for my father but for Daniel. I see it as a kind of gift to him.

                                                                                                                          Vanessa Yes,sin this case,it would harder for him to come with you in the waiting room.

                                                                                                                          right but he can see most of it from outside, just not the doctor's room, so it makes almost no difference in our case.

                                                                                                                          Vanessa It is close to not trusting you about self-control,so.

                                                                                                                          But you must also admit that it is difficult to control yourself in this point.