I wonder does some parents for sure putting CB on thier kids ?

hornyaspie2 Why you not report him, it's abuse

because i have been asked this very often, here is the short answer

in my eyes it is a method of education that i do not find right and would not use with my children, but for me it is not abuse. furthermore i have a deep distrust towards the authorities who in my opinion are much more abusive than my father.

Vanessa What I call "convinced wearers"

I love you... OMG what "state of art" of the euphemism!
Opposing "convinced wearers" to convinced wearers is brilliant.
You should write a handbook of feminine communication.
I will use since now "convinced wearers".

Vanessa And being aggressive is not the best way to discuss(constructively)a different point of view.

I don't wanted to sound aggressive, maybe that's the German way of thinking and writing, others often feel it is aggressive. I often have the same feeling when native Spanish people (not especially Ines) write in English. I think it would be good for the whole community when we keep in mind that English is not the first language for many of us

Vanessa Do you think seriously she would be the moderator(and it needs a lot of time)of our bard if she thought our webmaster is a troll?

Of course not, but if I follow her arguments saying that there can't be a real person who is "forced" by parents with pressure or whatever and is not running away or calling the authorities, she would be a troll based on this definition, like you and me.

Vanessa She tries to spot trolls and make them leave,it is part of a moderator's job.

I agree with this part of the job, but I think an important part of trolls is that they come and go fast and that they rush things a lot, like getting a belt 2 days after the order and things like that. I am very sure that not everyone who has to wear the belt unwillingly and is not trying to destroy their familiy is automatically a troll.

Vanessa You can skip the subjects made for male wearers,if you want to,however.

I agree, as I said, there is nothing wrong with male wearers, but I think it is obvious, that female wearers who talk about female aspect or point of view, becoming a small minority here, I am mostly interested in these aspects. Especially regarding unwilling wearers. As you know I often ask for e-mail Address to continue talk about things that are not wanted here, this is to keep this stuff out of this place and to learn if the person is a troll, because I think because of my experience in this area, I can quickly see if something is real or fantasy. Of course I don't believe many stories here, I am not stupid, but I prefer to find it out silent without being impolite from the very beginning.

Sara2001 maybe that's the German way of thinking and writing, others often feel it is aggressive. I often have the same feeling when native Spanish people (not especially Ines) write in English.

It is logical. Every language has resources in order to sound softly, every one has differences that allow to the speaker making differences if the other is angry, is moking...
When the user, as me, unknown the flourishes of a language, and uses it only as tool, it is obvious that it can not sound very nice.

Sara2001 I think your situation is sad and i can't change it. And recently I read the older threads from 2019 and what you wanted and expected then and reading what you accept now is even more depressing.

I a bit want to think of it as just a story - it's easier

hornyaspie2 What do you mean why you distrust authorities ?

because the consequences of going to the authorities would be bad for me, i would lose a lot of what is important to me in my life

hornyaspie2 It's has its own name it's called Stockholm Syndrome

no, it means thinking

and now again very briefly to the troll discussion:

i think we are opening a discussion that is too extreme here. Most of the trolls write a maximum of 5 posts here, in which they try to bring in the extreme as much as possible. however, they usually disappear quickly if they get bored. I think while we were still discussing it, another 5 trolls registered and 5 trolls left

hornyaspie2 if you like that left-wing excrement(faeces)...
hornyaspie2 I'm gay
hornyaspie2 I have Autism Spectrum Disorder(Asperger) and ADHD

You're a gay conservative Catholic from Poland with a disability? Those liberal lefties with their crazy ideals are the reason you haven't been lined up against the wall and shot.

Ines When the user, as me, unknown the flourishes of a language, and uses it only as tool, it is obvious that it can not sound very nice.

Same for me, I think all of us should just keep in mind that anything that is said is probably not exactly what was planned to say. Because of the different way of thinking in different languages and the lack of words the writing person knows in English. I think this often leads to some (mostly smaller) misunderstandings here

I made the experience here, that many things that I describe about my situation and that doesn't feel really bad for me are seen more bad then they are for me until I describe them more. I think this is because of the language barrier, too.

Jen Sara2001 I think your situation is sad and i can't change it. And recently I read the older threads from 2019 and what you wanted and expected then and reading what you accept now is even more depressing.

I a bit want to think of it as just a story - it's easier

It feels like it is ages away now. I can honestly say that I am absolutely happy about my relationship with Daniel and I think it is difficult to understand for outsiders but everyone here should keep in mind that our relationship is so much more than what is written here, my life doesn't only consists of these things but mostly on things anybody and any other couple is doing in more or less the exact same way.

Regarding my father, I think not much, almost nothing has changed since 2019 and I still don't regret my decision to opt for a good relationship to my family instead of doing everything that is possible to get out of the belt.

Angelina because the consequences of going to the authorities would be bad for me, i would lose a lot of what is important to me in my life

I think this is the most important aspect that is drastically underrated by people who suggest going to the authorities. I often feel that they think that we are not aware of these options or that we are not aware of the fact that our situation is not the norm. We found this place because of this awareness and we joined this forum because the decision if we accept or go to the authorities was (normally) already made. By the way, I think this is the reason why nobody here write about how he/she decided to go to the authorities and how it ended.

hornyaspie2 I wonder what is feminine perspective on sexuality

I think this deeply depends on the woman. I think it is important to give any answer that would be valid for all women. For example I have experienced that I can get a lot of satisfaction when I give a good time without the chance to get something similar in return, because I know that he feels that I do this for him for no selfish motivation but just because I want him to have good feelings. I feel really good afterwards. I know many other women have a deep understanding of what I am saying but in current times it is not opportune to say something like this openly. This doesn't mean that I don't want to experience orgasms myself or that I don't miss them, it's just another aspect.

hornyaspie2 I thought dear Peter (Piotr) if you like that left-wing excrement(faeces) of yours, you should like LGBTQ too, no cherry-picking

I thought dear hornyaspie2, if you like that right-wing excrement(faeces) of yours, you should only marry a conservative Catholic woman, no cherry-picking

While I class myself as a political centrist, the point is progressive liberal thinking has supported your freedom of choice, and has given you a voice with which to express it.

Sin You're a gay conservative Catholic from Poland with a disability? Those liberal lefties with their crazy ideals are the reason you haven't been lined up against the wall and shot.

That makes everything sound so strange ...

Sara2001 I made the experience here, that many things that I describe about my situation and that doesn't feel really bad for me are seen more bad then they are for me until I describe them more.

that's right, at the beginning i was very apprehensive about the way you conduct your relationship, but after you wrote a little more, i realised how happy it makes you.

Sara2001 I think this is the most important aspect that is drastically underrated by people who suggest going to the authorities. I often feel that they think that we are not aware of these options or that we are not aware of the fact that our situation is not the norm. We found this place because of this awareness and we joined this forum because the decision if we accept or go to the authorities was (normally) already made. By the way, I think this is the reason why nobody here write about how he/she decided to go to the authorities and how it ended.

thank you thank you 100% no 120% agree