Belt fitting

Angelina

Joh In sum you need min. 100 driving hours in the city , during night on the free-way or highway, etc

yes i understood that. but i didn't understand how many of them have to be done with a driving instructor and how many can be done with the parents.

Sin Yeah nah oi stop speakin strayan on an innanational forum ya bogan, no one can unnastanya cept me ay. 😋

even the google translator has reached its limits 🤣

Laura

Angelina even the google translator has reached its limits

Just try to pronounce it and you will understand 😂

youdontknowme

Angelina yes i understood that. but i didn't understand how many of them have to be done with a driving instructor and how many can be done with the parents.

Like in many countries with a few big cities and massive amounts of nothing between them, you could, in theory, do all your lessons with family members, but lessons with an instructor "count more"; 1 hour of driving with an instructor counts as much as three hours of driving with a parent. At least for the Australian state I looked up (NSW).

Joh

Angelina yes i understood that. but i didn't understand how many of them have to be done with a driving instructor and how many can be done with the parents.

As far as I know it is not necessary to have any lesson with an instructor.

Angelina

Laura Just try to pronounce it and you will understand 😂

i understand, i just want to say that it is funny what comes out when i put this into the translator 😂

Jonas

Jen Mum said I've got to start thinking having it locked is normal - like yikes that's a struggle to think about.

Sure, that must be v. hard to hear, but again, it's great keyholding!! 😁

Angelina

Jonas Sure, that must be v. hard to hear, but again, it's great keyholding!! 😁

it would have been great key holding if this had been agreed beforehand, so i see it more as a threat of further tightening

youdontknowme

ah ok, it seems a bit complicated to me because this is not allowed in germany

Jen

Its so humid today. Belt is yucky 😞

Sin

Jen why don't you take it o...
Oh! Oh my. Never mind.

Get used to it Tin Pants! 😋

Jen

Sin oh your evil hah not so bad now. Tin pants🤣

Vanessa

Sin why don't you take it o...

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Jen I've agreed to wearing half the time - 12 hours a day locked average. 🔒 😜 that gets me lessons and practice. But no more worrying about specific times - they'll let me know if getting behind - otherwise doesn't matter. So I'm wearing it tonight and won't need it tomorrow.

Good agreement,more freedom(for deciding when wearing it)!🙂

A big step in how long you would wear it,too.

Jen I put it on and take it off and clean it

Good too.

carg Perhaps you should first share your negotiation results here before you agree - that would give you some thinking time and hopefully a more balanced deal.

Wise idea.

carg Because I'm sure your parents won't stop here, now that they've got you this far.

I think so.They would at least try to convince her to wear it more often,I guess.

carg once you've got your driving license and stop wearing it 😛

She's not sure she would not wear it after it.

Driving lessons are an incentive,not her reason for trying it at first.

Jonas

It would be good,yes.

youdontknowme You should probably seek some help negotiating.

She may think the increased flexibility is worth the increased wearing time.

Jen

carg In that aspect it is a bit surprising that you were harder to follow, while you seem content with your current situation.

Hah you should be a psychologist yeah not really happy - the belt is fine - but the timetable is like controlling my life too much. I want to go out tomorrow - it's a holiday - but do i have to be home by 4 or what it's stupid it's like I've got a curfew.

The belt is good though. Trying to fit it myself was stupid it's so much better since dad's been helping. The hip band at the back you can't see yourself. (And if anyone has weird ideas I only pull my pants down just enough to see the band).
The fitting has made the crotch better too, I can get a little space but it normally sits snug. 😉 Still secure - not enough space to be usefull - but more comfy and can clean a bit. 🙂

carg

Jen I want to go out tomorrow - it's a holiday - but do i have to be home by 4

Perhaps you should consider having your mother put the belt on you before going out then 😛
Then you can stay away as long as you'd like, and are also well-protected against unwelcome attentions from partying males.

By the way, do you indeed two afternoons + nights per week now to both earn the lessons and the practice? You already have done 24 hours once, so you know what it is, and now the belt is not physically bothering you much anymore. But doing it twice a week is probably still quite hard, especially mentally.

Jen

The belt should have a warning: don't negotiate while wearing 😆
I've agreed to wearing half the time - 12 hours a day locked average. 🔒 😜 that gets me lessons and practice. But no more worrying about specific times - they'll let me know if getting behind - otherwise doesn't matter. So I'm wearing it tonight and won't need it tomorrow.

carg Perhaps you should consider having your mother put the belt on you before going out then 😛

😝😝😝 no thanks. Also I do all the belt stuff - I put it on and take it off and clean it. They just give me a key for a minute to unlock.

carg

Jen I've agreed to wearing half the time - 12 hours a day locked average.

Wow, that's going fast. It was only 3 days that you reported going from 2 days or nights per week to 7x afternoon + evening + 2 nights.
I don't see how 12 hours a day will work on school days: if you are not going to wear it outside the house then you'd have to wear it every school night !? (considering the night lasts about 8 hours, and 12 hours belted at home, would leave only 4 hours for school + travel, let alone meeting with friends, etc.)

Jen The belt should have a warning: don't negotiate while wearing

Perhaps you should first share your negotiation results here before you agree - that would give you some thinking time and hopefully a more balanced deal. Because I'm sure your parents won't stop here, now that they've got you this far.

You might even start to feel naked without the belt, once you've got your driving license and stop wearing it 😛

Jonas

Jen I've agreed to wearing half the time - 12 hours a day locked average. 🔒 😜 that gets me lessons and practice.

So do you get a 🚗 at the end of all this or what? 😀

youdontknowme

Jen 😝😝😝 no thanks. Also I do all the belt stuff - I put it on and take it off and clean it. They just give me a key for a minute to unlock.

I assume you still need to demonstrate that you are locked to them or something. Or is that another logbook you need to keep now?

But that sounds like a reasonable arrangement - if it is there to stay until you are close to getting a license. The way their demands have been increasing lately, I am slightly worried for you.

carg You might even start to feel naked without the belt, once you've got your driving license and stop wearing it

I think they will have some arrangement in store for when she has completed her license. Like she can only drive the car if she has accumulated enough locked hours in the past week or something.

carg I don't see how 12 hours a day will work on school days: if you are not going to wear it outside the house then you'd have to wear it every school night !? (considering the night lasts about 8 hours, and 12 hours belted at home, would leave only 4 hours for school + travel, let alone meeting with friends, etc.)

To me it looks like the arrangement will include overnight wear on at least some days. Or stay locked every waking hour on the weekend. In this case, more total time in the belt (12 hours instead of ₆-7 per day plus two nights) is the price for the added flexibility. So, let us see... 8-hour nights, averages out to about 2.3 hours per day over the week. Add that to 6.5 hours of afternoon belt wear, we get 8.8 hours average in the previous arrangement. So that would be 3.2 hours more per day, or 22.5 hours a week - that is two and a half more nights worth of belt wear over your previous arrangement. You should probably seek some help negotiating.

Jen

youdontknowme I assume you still need to demonstrate that you are locked to them or something.

Yep - send a photo of the lock each time. Even if they're around - still a photo

youdontknowme that is two and a half more nights worth of belt wear over your previous arrangement.

Your saying I need to wear 4 or 5 nights a week how can that be there's only 7 days in the week. I've had it since 4 yesterday so up to 18 hours already

carg

Vanessa She's not sure she would not wear it after it.

Driving lessons are an incentive,not her reason for trying it at first.

I know. But since she has been fluctuating between wearing it more and wearing it less, or even stopping after driving lessons, I'm also sometimes reacting like she'll soon be wearing it full-time, and sometimes that she'll stop after her license. Hopefully that will give her a better idea of which option she is going towards.

Jen So it's a couple more nights

I'm still expecting you're going to need wear it most nights, probably at least 5 per week: apart from the school times I'm sure you have other activities that you don't want to wear it for either, like hanging out with friends after school, going out, sports/exercise, family visits, shopping. (Perhaps less as long as there are covid restrictions.) Then there will be the showers/baths/cleaning times where you want to clean the belt and the area underneath. And you'll still need times where you don't wear it since you are not yet accustomed to that many hours in the belt.
All in all I expect you'll already notice the opportunities for self-pleasuring will not be very abundant anymore. It will be interesting to see what effect that will have on you striving to start keeping yourself pure.

I'd be quite curious how your parents would react if you'd say to them you just want to go back to doing only 2 days or nights for the regular lessons, and forget about the other practice sessions. Just to see how your parent would react, and in how far you are still in control. (This reminds me of Renita's experience, who earlier this year suddenly found out that her mother no longer trusts her with the key, and that she was no longer in control.)

Jen

Jen if I do 6 hours each afternoon that's half the daytime so then i just need half the nights.
Oh crap yeah a night will only count for 8.. probably 9. So it's a couple more nights and even more to make up for times I've missed.
I was thinking half the nights plus make-ups 🤦‍♀️

Vanessa

Jen Yep - send a photo of the lock each time. Even if they're around - still a photo

Better than showing it directly,I think.

Jen

How do you plan to manage it,as you only want to wear it at nights during week-end and holidays?

Sin

Jen I think you're doing really well. 🙂

May I ask... do you think your parents may have had an interest in the scene that you didn't realise / know about? I know it's weird to think about your parent's sex life but I wouldn't be surprised if they tried it for fun, and now you're beating them at their own game. So go you!

Jen

Sin never seen anything - think I'd have noticed even when I was younger. Don't know about earlier - don't wanna know ha

Vanessa How do you plan to manage it,as you only want to wear it at nights during week-end and holidays?

I'll do some school nights - not so worried, it fits better now🙂

carg It will be interesting to see what effect that will have on you striving to start keeping yourself pure.

And thing is the belts always just like there - like you know - to put on if needed, well lock on really. Yeah make the belt normal hah make it so no reason not to... but yeah I should be putting it on now really.

Jen

Sin May I ask... do you think your parents may have had an interest in the scene that you didn't realise / know about?

This old comment - I think about it sometimes. Just now Ines mentioned other girls in the family and I thought of this. Like I don't know anything, haven't talked, but yeah - since Sin wrote it - have wondered.

Jonas

Vanessa Jen Yep - send a photo of the lock each time. Even if they're around - still a photo

Better than showing it directly,I think.

It's certainly less hassle and stress for Jen. It's also quite a strict requirement. Photo also provides a form of timestamp. If I had to actually prove my belt was locked on regularly like this, I'd certainly feel more secure/protected.

Hmmm. 🤔

Vanessa

carg Hopefully that will give her a better idea of which option she is going towards.

I think she would decide before finishing her driving lessons,yes.

carg I'd be quite curious how your parents would react if you'd say to them you just want to go back to doing only 2 days or nights for the regular lessons, and forget about the other practice sessions. Just to see how your parent would react, and in how far you are still in control.

It could be interesting,yes,but if it only for trying to know how they would react,they may not appreciate she changes her mind so often,and decide it would stay this way,which means that @Jen would lose her practice sessions...

Jen not so worried, it fits better now🙂

Good if it doesn't impact badly your sleep anymore!🙂

carg By the way, perhaps it would be an idea to write all the starting times and end times of belt wearing down together with your mother, for instance in a logbook, so it is transparent to both of you how many hours you are in it.

Not a bad idea.

Jonas f I had to actually prove my belt was locked on regularly like this, I'd certainly feel more secure/protected.

Hmmm. 🤔

Do you plan to do it too?

Angelina that would eventually mean 24/7 and this would just be training for that

Probably what her parents want,not sure if @Jen wants it too(but I guess so).

youdontknowme

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Jen But now, like it would be nice to have it off - but yeah no good reason only a bad one😳 and asking them is - well like I can't just get it unlocked and disappear back into my room.

Yes,if it is comfortable,if you have no good reasons to ask to have it off and if you act this way,it would be obvious why you wanted it off...

Sin I think her parents are just happy she's trying it and they are attempting to be supportive without pushing too hard. They are letting her explore it herself, in her own time and on her own terms.

Not a bad way to act.

Sin would probably have a better outcome than forcing it upon her.

Probably,yes.

Angelina which goal the whole thing should end.

Probably 24/7 until marriage,but not too strict,a bit like it is for @Ines.

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