Belt fitting
Joh In sum you need min. 100 driving hours in the city , during night on the free-way or highway, etc
yes i understood that. but i didn't understand how many of them have to be done with a driving instructor and how many can be done with the parents.
Sin Yeah nah oi stop speakin strayan on an innanational forum ya bogan, no one can unnastanya cept me ay.
even the google translator has reached its limits 
Its so humid today. Belt is yucky 
carg In that aspect it is a bit surprising that you were harder to follow, while you seem content with your current situation.
Hah you should be a psychologist yeah not really happy - the belt is fine - but the timetable is like controlling my life too much. I want to go out tomorrow - it's a holiday - but do i have to be home by 4 or what it's stupid it's like I've got a curfew.
The belt is good though. Trying to fit it myself was stupid it's so much better since dad's been helping. The hip band at the back you can't see yourself. (And if anyone has weird ideas I only pull my pants down just enough to see the band).
The fitting has made the crotch better too, I can get a little space but it normally sits snug. 
Still secure - not enough space to be usefull - but more comfy and can clean a bit. 
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Jen I want to go out tomorrow - it's a holiday - but do i have to be home by 4
Perhaps you should consider having your mother put the belt on you before going out then 
Then you can stay away as long as you'd like, and are also well-protected against unwelcome attentions from partying males.
By the way, do you indeed two afternoons + nights per week now to both earn the lessons and the practice? You already have done 24 hours once, so you know what it is, and now the belt is not physically bothering you much anymore. But doing it twice a week is probably still quite hard, especially mentally.
The belt should have a warning: don't negotiate while wearing 
I've agreed to wearing half the time - 12 hours a day locked average. 
that gets me lessons and practice. But no more worrying about specific times - they'll let me know if getting behind - otherwise doesn't matter. So I'm wearing it tonight and won't need it tomorrow.
carg Perhaps you should consider having your mother put the belt on you before going out then
no thanks. Also I do all the belt stuff - I put it on and take it off and clean it. They just give me a key for a minute to unlock.
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Jen I've agreed to wearing half the time - 12 hours a day locked average.
Wow, that's going fast. It was only 3 days that you reported going from 2 days or nights per week to 7x afternoon + evening + 2 nights.
I don't see how 12 hours a day will work on school days: if you are not going to wear it outside the house then you'd have to wear it every school night !? (considering the night lasts about 8 hours, and 12 hours belted at home, would leave only 4 hours for school + travel, let alone meeting with friends, etc.)
Jen The belt should have a warning: don't negotiate while wearing
Perhaps you should first share your negotiation results here before you agree - that would give you some thinking time and hopefully a more balanced deal. Because I'm sure your parents won't stop here, now that they've got you this far.
You might even start to feel naked without the belt, once you've got your driving license and stop wearing it
at the end of all this or what? 
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Jen
I assume you still need to demonstrate that you are locked to them or something. Or is that another logbook you need to keep now?
But that sounds like a reasonable arrangement - if it is there to stay until you are close to getting a license. The way their demands have been increasing lately, I am slightly worried for you.
carg You might even start to feel naked without the belt, once you've got your driving license and stop wearing it
I think they will have some arrangement in store for when she has completed her license. Like she can only drive the car if she has accumulated enough locked hours in the past week or something.
carg I don't see how 12 hours a day will work on school days: if you are not going to wear it outside the house then you'd have to wear it every school night !? (considering the night lasts about 8 hours, and 12 hours belted at home, would leave only 4 hours for school + travel, let alone meeting with friends, etc.)
To me it looks like the arrangement will include overnight wear on at least some days. Or stay locked every waking hour on the weekend. In this case, more total time in the belt (12 hours instead of 6-7 per day plus two nights) is the price for the added flexibility. So, let us see... 8-hour nights, averages out to about 2.3 hours per day over the week. Add that to 6.5 hours of afternoon belt wear, we get 8.8 hours average in the previous arrangement. So that would be 3.2 hours more per day, or 22.5 hours a week - that is two and a half more nights worth of belt wear over your previous arrangement. You should probably seek some help negotiating.
Sin why don't you take it o...
Jen I've agreed to wearing half the time - 12 hours a day locked average.
Good agreement,more freedom(for deciding when wearing it)!
A big step in how long you would wear it,too.
Jen I put it on and take it off and clean it
Good too.
carg Perhaps you should first share your negotiation results here before you agree - that would give you some thinking time and hopefully a more balanced deal.
Wise idea.
carg Because I'm sure your parents won't stop here, now that they've got you this far.
I think so.They would at least try to convince her to wear it more often,I guess.
carg once you've got your driving license and stop wearing it
She's not sure she would not wear it after it.
Driving lessons are an incentive,not her reason for trying it at first.
It would be good,yes.
youdontknowme You should probably seek some help negotiating.
She may think the increased flexibility is worth the increased wearing time.
youdontknowme I assume you still need to demonstrate that you are locked to them or something.
Yep - send a photo of the lock each time. Even if they're around - still a photo
youdontknowme that is two and a half more nights worth of belt wear over your previous arrangement.
Your saying I need to wear 4 or 5 nights a week how can that be there's only 7 days in the week. I've had it since 4 yesterday so up to 18 hours already
Jen I think you're doing really well.
May I ask... do you think your parents may have had an interest in the scene that you didn't realise / know about? I know it's weird to think about your parent's sex life but I wouldn't be surprised if they tried it for fun, and now you're beating them at their own game. So go you!