Jen

OK, let me see if I can understand what you are saying. You should realize that the rules for driving lessons vary per country, like in the Netherlands you can only practice with an instructor, and not with any other adult until you passed your theory and practice test. There is no limit on how many hours you need to have practiced; if you decide to go up for the practice test with only 1 hour of lesson, and pass (VERY unlikely), that would still be allowed.
Based on your messages, I am assuming the following - please correct me if I'm wrong:

  • Susan is your driving instructor
  • now you have her permission, you are also allowed to practice driving in your parent's car while they teach you
  • actual driving lessons with Susan count 3 times as much as lessons from your parents
  • you currently have driving lessons with Susan twice a week
  • you record all lessons in a logbook, and need to complete a certain number of hours before you can take the test
  • you are not getting driving lessons with Susan unless you have worn your belt for 4 half-days in a row
  • you don't currently wear the belt at nights at all
  • wearing the belt every afternoon now feels to you like it is possible, and perhaps easier to get used to than occasionally.
  • you have freely agreed to this new set of agreements, but are still unsure where it will lead to.
  • I can find no information on how often your parents agree to practice with you, and if that is included in the 4 half-days continuous.
  • Jen replied to this.

      carg sorry guess I shouldn't post if not being clear.

      • Yes Susan is my instructor, I've had 4 lessons, one a week
      • need 100 hours (there's a logbook app)
      • need 2 nights to get a lesson
      • the 4 half days is to practise with parents, like drive to school and stuff. But it's supposed to be worn every afternoon so then driving practise whenever I can. If I skip a day then no driving for 4 days.
      • I'm happy with it now but well yeah for now is all I can say.
      • carg replied to this.

          Jen I shouldn't post if not being clear.

          Well, it would help if you tried a bit harder to be clear, I guess especially for those who have a harder time with English anyway. Sometimes I write a text in a text editor like Notepad first, and read it over once or even twice before I post it, but for me that is mostly useful if I have something that is not easy to put into words, like when there are delicate feelings involved and I want to try to prevent stepping on toes. On the other hand, like I mentioned before, your way of writing seems to mirror your current emotional stability, which is also useful to know. In that aspect it is a bit surprising that you were harder to follow, while you seem content with your current situation.

          Jen need 2 nights to get a lesson

          Ah, yes. That is a more logical explanation of your text "Lessons are still 2 nights", than that you suddenly got 2 evening lessons per week 😮
          So the price of the lessons hasn't gone up; there were just added extra rewards you can earn.
          So I assume you are for now trying to do the belt every afternoon, which would mean that to earn your driving lessons, you need to be in the belt continuously from straight after school (or 4PM) until you get up the next morning, twice a week. That must be pretty challenging.

                Jen

                somehow i am worried. i find it a bit scary that your mother is already talking about it being normal for you and that the rules have become stricter again. please make sure that you keep control.

                carg So the price of the lessons hasn't gone up; there were just added extra rewards you can earn.

                it seems so, i'm really not sure if i understood everything, but the autralian driving school system alone is very complicated in my opinion. with me it was like with you in the netherlands, i could only drive with a driving instructor and i could take the test when my driving instructor said yes.

                • Joh replied to this.

                      Angelina the autralian driving school system alone is very complicated in my opinion

                      As far as I know it is not complicated. You need to fulfil at test to show you know the street rules. Any adult which fulfil the requirement, I don't remember what exact it was, can be you instructor. In sum you need min. 100 driving hours in the city , during night on the free-way or highway, etc. It is better to have more than 100 hours because it can be they don't accept some of it. Than you make your driving test. Done

                          Angelina Maybe you can make her a counteroffer, something like a deal.

                          It could work,yes.

                          Jen

                          Good news for driving,but harder part with the belt.

                          However,if you still plan to wear it "semi-permanently" after a while,I think too it would be easier if you consider it more normal.

                          Jen Yes..I guess.

                          Good,so!🙂

                          Jen rewards to encourage

                          Not exactly the case,as,if you don't wear it,you don't have driving lessons...

                                  Jen Not even no its not payment no they get what I said - rewards to encourage are ok. Yeah I'm doing this well yeah for now at least.

                                  Yeah nah oi stop speakin strayan on an innanational forum ya bogan, no one can unnastanya cept me ay. 😋

                                      Sin no one can unnastanya cept me ay

                                      yeah nah thersanuva Aussie here I swear

                                        Sin
                                        I agree with you. It is hard to understand.

                                          Joh In sum you need min. 100 driving hours in the city , during night on the free-way or highway, etc

                                          yes i understood that. but i didn't understand how many of them have to be done with a driving instructor and how many can be done with the parents.

                                          Sin Yeah nah oi stop speakin strayan on an innanational forum ya bogan, no one can unnastanya cept me ay. 😋

                                          even the google translator has reached its limits 🤣

                                                Angelina even the google translator has reached its limits

                                                Just try to pronounce it and you will understand 😂

                                                    Laura Just try to pronounce it and you will understand 😂

                                                    i understand, i just want to say that it is funny what comes out when i put this into the translator 😂

                                                      Jen Mum said I've got to start thinking having it locked is normal - like yikes that's a struggle to think about.

                                                      Sure, that must be v. hard to hear, but again, it's great keyholding!! 😁

                                                          Its so humid today. Belt is yucky 😞

                                                          • Sin replied to this.

                                                            Jen why don't you take it o...
                                                            Oh! Oh my. Never mind.

                                                            Get used to it Tin Pants! 😋

                                                                Sin oh your evil hah not so bad now. Tin pants🤣

                                                                  carg In that aspect it is a bit surprising that you were harder to follow, while you seem content with your current situation.

                                                                  Hah you should be a psychologist yeah not really happy - the belt is fine - but the timetable is like controlling my life too much. I want to go out tomorrow - it's a holiday - but do i have to be home by 4 or what it's stupid it's like I've got a curfew.

                                                                  The belt is good though. Trying to fit it myself was stupid it's so much better since dad's been helping. The hip band at the back you can't see yourself. (And if anyone has weird ideas I only pull my pants down just enough to see the band).
                                                                  The fitting has made the crotch better too, I can get a little space but it normally sits snug. 😉 Still secure - not enough space to be usefull - but more comfy and can clean a bit. 🙂

                                                                  • carg replied to this.

                                                                      Jen I want to go out tomorrow - it's a holiday - but do i have to be home by 4

                                                                      Perhaps you should consider having your mother put the belt on you before going out then 😛
                                                                      Then you can stay away as long as you'd like, and are also well-protected against unwelcome attentions from partying males.

                                                                      By the way, do you indeed two afternoons + nights per week now to both earn the lessons and the practice? You already have done 24 hours once, so you know what it is, and now the belt is not physically bothering you much anymore. But doing it twice a week is probably still quite hard, especially mentally.

                                                                      • Jen replied to this.

                                                                          The belt should have a warning: don't negotiate while wearing 😆
                                                                          I've agreed to wearing half the time - 12 hours a day locked average. 🔒 😜 that gets me lessons and practice. But no more worrying about specific times - they'll let me know if getting behind - otherwise doesn't matter. So I'm wearing it tonight and won't need it tomorrow.

                                                                          carg Perhaps you should consider having your mother put the belt on you before going out then 😛

                                                                          😝😝😝 no thanks. Also I do all the belt stuff - I put it on and take it off and clean it. They just give me a key for a minute to unlock.