Angelina this idea alone seems very utopian to me, the belt would weigh more than i would myself

Yes, the customer may be perfectly sane in the rest of life but when it comes to chastity any sense of reality is just gone. Even back then there were enough online calculators that they could have checked metal density and calculated an approximate mass for the belt. They could just have looked at the padlock they bought and thought this weighs 5kg and the belt will be several times heavier than that. They could even have just put on 6 or 8 adult nappies to simulate the bulk of it to see if they could hide it under clothes. But did they, no.

      Raziel
      I have read about metal with memory effect. After it is bent and retains its shape, you heat it and it goes back to its old shape. It is apparently used as a replacement for discs. So the temperature can't be that high.
      The hip band would be shaped to fit the hip, bent open, put on, heated and it would bend back.

        Taz and no secondary shield

        Just curious what's the percentage of belts without a secondary shield nowadays

            Taz to see if they could hide it under clothes. But did they, no.

            ok, so at the latest when i imagine hiding such a belt under my clothes i have to start laughing, the picture in my mind's eye has really saved my day, thank you. 🤣

              Vanessa I wonder how he knew about chastity belts without knowing what he wanted was impossible...

              this is not surprising, my father would prefer my belt to be closed at the back (even though i am not interested in anal sex), but he also wants me to be able to go to the toilet without problems.... sometimes it is difficult to combine different interests

                  Taz it was to be locked with some some huge industrial padlock that they brought with them probably weighing about 5kg

                  Going back to the first story, I imagine this sort of like a cartoon chastity belt with the oversized padlock loosely dangling from the front. Thigh bands would be a mandatory accessory for that; if the wearer started running, the knocking might injure her otherwise.

                    Angelina my father would prefer my belt to be closed at the back

                    My new belt will be lockable even on the backside. So it could be used as a swimsuit. ;-)

                        Martin My new belt will be lockable even on the backside. So it could be used as a swimsuit. ;-)

                        but if it is closed at the back, toilet visits (at least for the big) are impossible

                            Angelina Latowski offers an anal cover plate that can be locked onto the belt without removing it using a little cam lock. Which would allow it to be used for short periods where there is an elevated danger of the rear opening being abused, or for making the belt a street-legal, if extravagant piece of clothing.

                            There is also a version of that cover that includes a little rod you can attach various items to, but those items generally do not promote being chaste.

                                youdontknowme

                                yes, i know these cover plates, but that would not solve my father's "problem" (i don't see it as a problem 😉 ) because when the plate is in place, only he could open it, bad if i am in the public

                                    Angelina but if it is closed at the back, toilet visits (at least for the big) are impossible

                                    The keys for backplate will stay with me all the time of course.

                                    Mr. Youdontknowme said it correctly.

                                        Angelina because when the plate is in place, only he could open it, bad if i am in the public

                                        It could be keyed to use different keys than the belt. Looks like the belt uses single-sided pin-tumbler locks while the cover uses a two-sided wafer lock, so it is very unlikely one key would work for both. Which makes the butt cover no security downgrade, but giving the wearer the key of course limits its usefulness as a security upgrade as well.

                                        Eliminating what is commonly referred to as the "poophole loophole" (see also: Garfunkel and Oates - The Loophole) without significantly impeding unsupervised long-term wear is perhaps one of the more difficult engineering problems in chastity belt design, and (to get back to topic) I am sure Mr. Tollyboy has some interesting stories about overconfident clients who believe that problem to be solved.

                                            Today I woke up to a message asking if I could build a 42mm diameter permanent anal plug as part of a full metal torso harness. At least the customer can afford to pay for this item, has extensive experience of long-term effects, and is sane enough to know it would need a removable inner plug with a tapered top to make it possible to insert. As for a full torso cage made of barstock I assume they are looking at something like a woman's one piece swimsuit in general outline built out of a spiderweb effect of small round bar and somehow integrated with a chastity belt. I will await more details of the job with interest.

                                              youdontknowme I am sure Mr. Tollyboy has some interesting stories about overconfident clients who believe that problem to be solved.

                                              Yes, there are many who think this is not a problem. Take a two-inch medium wall thickness tube cut a thread on the inside to screw in a bung weld it to the back of the belt and call it good. Apart from the problems of how would you insert it with no tapered guide on the top to ease it into place, how are you going to deal with a permanently overstretched anal sphincter, why put threads on the inside of it where they will be harder to clean. etc. Anyone wanting to go this route needs to consider the possibility of permanent anal incontinence so even if you get over this fetish you might well be wearing adult nappies for the rest of your life or may need surgery to insert some form of an artificial sphincter. I have had lots who want this with no consideration of the consequences of it.

                                              The only permanent anal plug that I have so far ever built and that I know works is made of half-inch bar and is turned much like a dumbbell. There is a half-inch ball on the end that is inserted the stem is small so causes effectively no stretching about 4mm as I remember and there is a ball on the other end that is drilled through and soldered to the rear cable of an FGA/200 belt. Round end to avoid cutting or tearing anything, very small shank to avoid stretching anything, not removable but not I imagine the cleanest thing to use. Would I think almost certainly need a bidet for washing?

                                              The purpose is to be just big enough to serve as a reminder it is there and to prevent any attempt at moving the cable sidewards to perhaps allow some anal stimulation. I have no idea if it actually works but then I rarely get feedback.

                                                  Angelina but if it is closed at the back, toilet visits (at least for the big) are impossible

                                                  There has been a suggested solution to that. I don't think anyone has ever built it but it was suggested to me that the supermarkt have shopping trollies that are tethered by chains to the wall or to each other you insert a euro and it releases. Could I not adapt this mechanism to the rear of a belt so that there is a short tether behind the toilet. You sit down and clip this tether into place this anchors you to the chain and releases the back of the belt. When you are finished clipping the back of the belt closed releases the chain and you can again move freely.

                                                  I don't know how the mechanism works, clearly what is on a trolley is too bulky and you are limited to toilets fitted with the appropriate locking tether so basically only at home or perhaps friends places who don't mind having a chain screwed to the wall. You could of course take a tether end with you when you go out but it defeats the purpose of it.

                                                      Martin The keys for backplate will stay with me all the time of course.

                                                      ok, then it works for your goals, but it wouldn't work for my father, which is also good for me. 😉

                                                      youdontknowme It could be keyed to use different keys than the belt.

                                                      of course, but my father, if he wanted to do it, he would do it seriously and that means he would worry (sounds complicated, but it's all theoretical) about what i do in public toilets. 😉

                                                      Taz

                                                      thanks for the idea, it's very interesting but probably a bit too complicated for everyday use and if you don't know how to build something like that i doubt other manufacturers do.

                                                              Taz You sit down and clip this tether into place this anchors you to the chain and releases the back of the belt.

                                                              I read in a story a similar idea but is also only working in that building. With a key on a medium long chain she could open the back. The key would stuck in as long as it was not locked again.
                                                              If she is not leaving the house it would work but otherwise not. Nevertheless is was only fantasy.

                                                                Taz cut a thread on the inside to screw in a bung

                                                                Talk about redefining "bunghole". But yeah, anything that allows using the toilet while preventing anal stimulation would likely make toilet visits very awkward (much moreso than having to pee through a slot/mesh), to say nothing about the risk of long-term damage.

                                                                Angelina of course, but my father, if he wanted to do it, he would do it seriously and that means he would worry (sounds complicated, but it's all theoretical) about what i do in public toilets.

                                                                The only realistic scenarios for an anal shield are just wearing it to literally cover your ass (and thereby create the illusion that the belt is just an elaborate fashion accessory) or defending against very short high-risk scenarios, like an unlocked boyfriend coming over for an hour or two or the wearer visiting his place. Using it to guard against self-pleasure is a futile effort.

                                                                Taz There has been a suggested solution to that. I don't think anyone has ever built it but it was suggested to me that the supermarkt have shopping trollies that are tethered by chains to the wall or to each other you insert a euro and it releases. Could I not adapt this mechanism to the rear of a belt so that there is a short tether behind the toilet. You sit down and clip this tether into place this anchors you to the chain and releases the back of the belt. When you are finished clipping the back of the belt closed releases the chain and you can again move freely.

                                                                I don't know how the mechanism works, clearly what is on a trolley is too bulky and you are limited to toilets fitted with the appropriate locking tether so basically only at home or perhaps friends places who don't mind having a chain screwed to the wall. You could of course take a tether end with you when you go out but it defeats the purpose of it.

                                                                Seems somewhat realistic, the key difference to a shopping cart lock, other than size, would be that both ends need to be somewhat uniquely keyed, so fabricating a shim to replace the cover is a non-trivial affair. As for using it on the go, a solution might be attaching the chain to something bulky that could not be inconspicuously concealed under clothes. Would not help against self-exploration, or even against couples' play in a secluded place, since your butt is not tied to the seat (which would seem like a pain for wiping anyway), but it does prevent the wearer from just walking around in public with an unsecured rear entrance. How much that helps with staying chaste is anyone's guess, though.

                                                                        Angelina sometimes it is difficult to combine different interests

                                                                        It is a cable rear belt,in this case!😉

                                                                        Taz permanent anal plug

                                                                        Seems very dangerous!

                                                                        Even if taken off for toilet use.

                                                                        Taz I imagine the cleanest thing to use.

                                                                        It can lead to health problems,I think.

                                                                        Taz

                                                                        Could work,but I doubt many places would have it,except if chastity belts become very common!

                                                                        Angelina which is also good for me. 😉

                                                                        😉

                                                                        Angelina of course, but my father, if he wanted to do it, he would do it seriously and that means he would worry (sounds complicated, but it's all theoretical) about what i do in public toilets. 😉

                                                                        He would not prefer using it,even if not totally secure if you have the keys,instead of not using it?