The idea of a timed safe troubles me a tad as it's possible you might have some sort of emergency. Let's revisit the idea of your sister and mother. If they would agree to hold the keys that would seem ideal as if you asked them for the keys they would presumably know you were going to masturbate and then when done you would have to return the keys. That would be a deterrent, I think. I mean I would not want my Dad to know I was about to masturbate and when I was done.

If they will not hold them, have actual possession, how about putting them in a small container. The container would stay in either your sister's or mother's room but they would not handle them. Would they agree to that? Then they never touch the keys but you would have to enter their rooms to get them which might discourage your access.

Or put the container on the mantle piece in the living room or on top of the TV or up on top of the kitchen cabinets where you would have to get up on a ladder, a rather obvious thing to anyone about.

    Avery Well i think that putting them in a small container and placing them in one of their rooms would be a great idea.
    I don't wanna ask them to hold the keys for me because i don't know how they would react...
    So my question is: should i put the keys in my sister's room, she's often at home, and in this way i couldn't take them because she would see me or should i put them in my mother's purse, she often isn't at home, and in this way she would take them with her?
    I don't know what's better....

        Lightnin_47 So my question is: should i put the keys in my sister's room, she's often at home, and in this way i couldn't take them because she would see me or should i put them in my mother's purse, she often isn't at home, and in this way she would take them with her?

        I'd suggest the sister's room. My mother has one of my keys but the key never leaves the house. It's a long shot but I would worry if she takes both keys out of the house on a regular basis. The purse could be lost or stolen. A long shot yes, but it's both keys. Good luck to you in any case.

            That leaves you with no acvess to an emergency key while not home. Plus any hygiene unlocks would have to be scheduled around your sister's (and mother's, otherwise she might get suspicious why you sneak into your sister's room while she is not there) absences unless you are willing to explain your situation to them.

              youdontknowme You're right but i can take the emergency key with me when i leave home and when i need to do an hygiene unlock, and then put it in my mother's room when i don't need it (i have access to her room)

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                  Avery The idea of a timed safe troubles me a tad as it's possible you might have some sort of emergency.

                  Have you looked at the kitchen safe? Like I wrote you can break it if you need to.

                  Avery The container would stay in either your sister's or mother's room but they would not handle them. Would they agree to that? Then they never touch the keys but you would have to enter their rooms to get them which might discourage your access.

                  I don't quite see how this would work. (I mean that might just be me, not at all saying it could not work.) If your mother/sister know about you storing the key with them, they become your keyholder, even if they don't actually touch it. They could always decide to deny you access to your key, like to hide it somewhere else or keep it on their person. You should think carefully if you would trust either of them enough not to try and take control, like if you'd have a dispute with her, or she wants something from you. So you would still need to come to an agreement, or perhaps even draw up a contract, to make it clear for both sides what is expected and what is not OK.

                  Lightnin_47 You're right but i can take the emergency key with me

                  You'll need to think of a way how to prevent yourself from using the emergency key then. There are some people here on the forum who have an emergency key packed in something that needs to be destroyed to get to the key (e.g. candlewax). Then the keyholder will know they accessed it, and give punishment if it was not an actual emergency. But without a keyholder, there would be no consequences for removing the packing...

                          carg I just putted the keys in my sister's room (the emergency key too).
                          When i'll need them for an emergency i'll just have to ask her (she doesn't know these are the keys of my chastity device)

                              Lightnin_47

                              Hope it all works out for you. I'm a bit scared that you might suddenly lose control of your keys though; you'd not be the first here who became an involuntary wearer because the parents found out and impounded the keys.

                                  Lightnin_47 But i don't think they would agree so what can i do?

                                  even though you seem to have found a solution, i would still advise you to talk to your mother and/or sister about it. or maybe to someone very close to you (best friend etc.). I think it is important to have a human key holder. I don't think much of a technical solution, because a machine doesn't recognise emergencies and it would be good if your key holder recognises that.

                                      Let me ask you, you say you got the cage and you have decreased your masturbation and you don't know what to do with the keys. So I guess you have had the keys yourself all this time. And even so you have evidently exercised self discipline and not used the keys. So, if you have been successful so far (and we all congratulate you) perhaps you can continue as you are. Or maybe you now have enough self control so you don't need the cage. Perhaps you can limit yourself to once a day. That's not an addiction.

                                      I don't know, but it does seem like you have made considerable progress. Perhaps you can continue on your own now, again possibly with some sort of rationing. And if you fall off the wagon at some point go back to the cage for two weeks and try again.

                                        Angelina That is why I say the emergency key should not be timelocked, but rendered inaccessible by deterrent instead - like having to destroy something that would cost money to replace to get at it (the piggy bank example). I definitely think it is a bad idea to leave the emergency key at home while he is at school or something.

                                            youdontknowme I definitely think it is a bad idea to leave the emergency key at home while he is at school or something.

                                            So who has access to a key while they are out of the house?

                                              Angelina Yeah i wanted to talk about it to my sister, she probably would take the keys but i don't know how she would react.
                                              Plus i don't completely trust her, I'm scared she would hide the key

                                                  Avery I actually tried, after a week, to take it off but then the problem returned.
                                                  Now maybe i have much more self control but I'm still not sure about it.
                                                  Plus now that i've been with it on for so long i feel strange without It, i feel like i'm more comfortable wearing It but i don't know why

                                                      Lightnin_47 I actually tried, after a week, to take it off but then the problem returned.
                                                      Now maybe i have much more self control but I'm still not sure about it.
                                                      Plus now that i've been with it on for so long i feel strange without It, i feel like i'm more comfortable wearing It but i don't know why

                                                      OK, so you must keep it on. It still seems you have been doing well while you yourself have the keys. So perhaps you can continue to keep them and be OK thus maybe you need not fret about giving them to someone else. Or perhaps I am missing something. Anyway I don't want to talk too much. Good luck.

                                                        youdontknowme You just recently bought your cage and can already see a measurable difference? I wonder how much that is the placebo effect at play and how much you have actually improved.

                                                        I agree.

                                                        Laura

                                                        Right.

                                                        Lightnin_47 i had some overmasturbation problems

                                                        How often?

                                                        Did it impact other activities?

                                                        youdontknowme It is generally recommended to take chastity cages off on a regular basis to give both your body and your cage a thorough cleaning.

                                                        And to be erect;important for health.

                                                        Lightnin_47

                                                        Don't you think she would be curious to know what are these keys,and why you need to ask her to take these back?

                                                                  youdontknowme

                                                                  what would you think of the idea of a sealed envelope? but even for that he needs a key holder to sign the seal in a forgery-proof way

                                                                  Lightnin_47 Plus i don't completely trust her, I'm scared she would hide the key

                                                                  the older users will laugh now, because they know what i'm now saying. why don't you make a written contract with her?