Where i can put the keys of my chastity cage?

Avery The idea of a timed safe troubles me a tad as it's possible you might have some sort of emergency.

Have you looked at the kitchen safe? Like I wrote you can break it if you need to.

Avery The container would stay in either your sister's or mother's room but they would not handle them. Would they agree to that? Then they never touch the keys but you would have to enter their rooms to get them which might discourage your access.

I don't quite see how this would work. (I mean that might just be me, not at all saying it could not work.) If your mother/sister know about you storing the key with them, they become your keyholder, even if they don't actually touch it. They could always decide to deny you access to your key, like to hide it somewhere else or keep it on their person. You should think carefully if you would trust either of them enough not to try and take control, like if you'd have a dispute with her, or she wants something from you. So you would still need to come to an agreement, or perhaps even draw up a contract, to make it clear for both sides what is expected and what is not OK.

Lightnin_47 You're right but i can take the emergency key with me

You'll need to think of a way how to prevent yourself from using the emergency key then. There are some people here on the forum who have an emergency key packed in something that needs to be destroyed to get to the key (e.g. candlewax). Then the keyholder will know they accessed it, and give punishment if it was not an actual emergency. But without a keyholder, there would be no consequences for removing the packing...

Lightnin_47

Hope it all works out for you. I'm a bit scared that you might suddenly lose control of your keys though; you'd not be the first here who became an involuntary wearer because the parents found out and impounded the keys.

Lightnin_47 But i don't think they would agree so what can i do?

even though you seem to have found a solution, i would still advise you to talk to your mother and/or sister about it. or maybe to someone very close to you (best friend etc.). I think it is important to have a human key holder. I don't think much of a technical solution, because a machine doesn't recognise emergencies and it would be good if your key holder recognises that.

Let me ask you, you say you got the cage and you have decreased your masturbation and you don't know what to do with the keys. So I guess you have had the keys yourself all this time. And even so you have evidently exercised self discipline and not used the keys. So, if you have been successful so far (and we all congratulate you) perhaps you can continue as you are. Or maybe you now have enough self control so you don't need the cage. Perhaps you can limit yourself to once a day. That's not an addiction.

I don't know, but it does seem like you have made considerable progress. Perhaps you can continue on your own now, again possibly with some sort of rationing. And if you fall off the wagon at some point go back to the cage for two weeks and try again.

Angelina That is why I say the emergency key should not be timelocked, but rendered inaccessible by deterrent instead - like having to destroy something that would cost money to replace to get at it (the piggy bank example). I definitely think it is a bad idea to leave the emergency key at home while he is at school or something.

youdontknowme I definitely think it is a bad idea to leave the emergency key at home while he is at school or something.

So who has access to a key while they are out of the house?

Lightnin_47 I actually tried, after a week, to take it off but then the problem returned.
Now maybe i have much more self control but I'm still not sure about it.
Plus now that i've been with it on for so long i feel strange without It, i feel like i'm more comfortable wearing It but i don't know why

OK, so you must keep it on. It still seems you have been doing well while you yourself have the keys. So perhaps you can continue to keep them and be OK thus maybe you need not fret about giving them to someone else. Or perhaps I am missing something. Anyway I don't want to talk too much. Good luck.

youdontknowme You just recently bought your cage and can already see a measurable difference? I wonder how much that is the placebo effect at play and how much you have actually improved.

I agree.

Laura

Right.

Lightnin_47 i had some overmasturbation problems

How often?

Did it impact other activities?

youdontknowme It is generally recommended to take chastity cages off on a regular basis to give both your body and your cage a thorough cleaning.

And to be erect;important for health.

Lightnin_47

Don't you think she would be curious to know what are these keys,and why you need to ask her to take these back?

youdontknowme

what would you think of the idea of a sealed envelope? but even for that he needs a key holder to sign the seal in a forgery-proof way

Lightnin_47 Plus i don't completely trust her, I'm scared she would hide the key

the older users will laugh now, because they know what i'm now saying. why don't you make a written contract with her?

Angelina what would you think of the idea of a sealed envelope? but even for that he needs a key holder to sign the seal in a forgery-proof way

Without a keyholder to sign it, it seems too easy/low-cost to replace, to the point where you might as well just carry the key with you by itself. Which is an option, if you just need the cage as a reminder to play nice, or if the hassle of retrieving the key is enough to knock you out of the mood.

With a keyholder, it is an option, but that requires another person to willingly take part in your cage use and actually wanting to discourage you from masturbating. Of course no boy wants to admit to a family member (other than maybe a brother of similar age) how he has been wanking, but that would be ineffective if said family member never asks to see the envelope.

Plus heaving that sealed envelope also serves as at least a little guarantee that the dynamic will not be getting out of hand, as you can break it off if unreasonable demands are made.

youdontknowme

it is quite clear that there needs to be active participation from the key holder and the wearer, i am just making suggestions here, i can't see inside the head and i don't know the situation in the family 100%

Couldn't find a thread specifically about masturbation but this was related. Been reading about boys who masturbate a lot, as I've said I didn't realize this was a fairly common problem. Evidently this can cause problems having sex penis in vagina. I once had a boy who had trouble getting hard with me, swore he wasn't gay, etc., me using my hand did help. Now I wonder if too frequent masturbation was the problem.

Avery There is a lot of myth around the subject. Some guys think that if they abstain from self-induced orgasm for a period of time, their sexual energy will allow them to seduce any woman they want. Or that the grip of a hand during masturbation physically damages the penis, making it perform worse during intercourse unless given an opportunity to heal. But there may be some truth behind some of these stories that just got exaggerated into more and more ridiculous claims.

youdontknowme Some guys think that if they abstain from self-induced orgasm for a period of time, their sexual energy will allow them to seduce any woman they want.

Yes, the stories I read have women approaching the guys.

Avery

I read about it,too,even if never experienced it with one of my ex.If addicted to masturbation,they may have problem to get erect for sex.But I think it is unusual.

In your case,he may be stressed and the stimulation with your hand helped his body to react "mechanically",no matter the stress.