Lightnin_47 I actually tried, after a week, to take it off but then the problem returned.
Now maybe i have much more self control but I'm still not sure about it.
Plus now that i've been with it on for so long i feel strange without It, i feel like i'm more comfortable wearing It but i don't know why

OK, so you must keep it on. It still seems you have been doing well while you yourself have the keys. So perhaps you can continue to keep them and be OK thus maybe you need not fret about giving them to someone else. Or perhaps I am missing something. Anyway I don't want to talk too much. Good luck.

    youdontknowme You just recently bought your cage and can already see a measurable difference? I wonder how much that is the placebo effect at play and how much you have actually improved.

    I agree.

    Laura

    Right.

    Lightnin_47 i had some overmasturbation problems

    How often?

    Did it impact other activities?

    youdontknowme It is generally recommended to take chastity cages off on a regular basis to give both your body and your cage a thorough cleaning.

    And to be erect;important for health.

    Lightnin_47

    Don't you think she would be curious to know what are these keys,and why you need to ask her to take these back?

              youdontknowme

              what would you think of the idea of a sealed envelope? but even for that he needs a key holder to sign the seal in a forgery-proof way

              Lightnin_47 Plus i don't completely trust her, I'm scared she would hide the key

              the older users will laugh now, because they know what i'm now saying. why don't you make a written contract with her?

                    Angelina what would you think of the idea of a sealed envelope? but even for that he needs a key holder to sign the seal in a forgery-proof way

                    Without a keyholder to sign it, it seems too easy/low-cost to replace, to the point where you might as well just carry the key with you by itself. Which is an option, if you just need the cage as a reminder to play nice, or if the hassle of retrieving the key is enough to knock you out of the mood.

                    With a keyholder, it is an option, but that requires another person to willingly take part in your cage use and actually wanting to discourage you from masturbating. Of course no boy wants to admit to a family member (other than maybe a brother of similar age) how he has been wanking, but that would be ineffective if said family member never asks to see the envelope.

                    Plus heaving that sealed envelope also serves as at least a little guarantee that the dynamic will not be getting out of hand, as you can break it off if unreasonable demands are made.

                        youdontknowme

                        it is quite clear that there needs to be active participation from the key holder and the wearer, i am just making suggestions here, i can't see inside the head and i don't know the situation in the family 100%

                          15 days later

                          Couldn't find a thread specifically about masturbation but this was related. Been reading about boys who masturbate a lot, as I've said I didn't realize this was a fairly common problem. Evidently this can cause problems having sex penis in vagina. I once had a boy who had trouble getting hard with me, swore he wasn't gay, etc., me using my hand did help. Now I wonder if too frequent masturbation was the problem.

                            Avery There is a lot of myth around the subject. Some guys think that if they abstain from self-induced orgasm for a period of time, their sexual energy will allow them to seduce any woman they want. Or that the grip of a hand during masturbation physically damages the penis, making it perform worse during intercourse unless given an opportunity to heal. But there may be some truth behind some of these stories that just got exaggerated into more and more ridiculous claims.

                                youdontknowme Some guys think that if they abstain from self-induced orgasm for a period of time, their sexual energy will allow them to seduce any woman they want.

                                Yes, the stories I read have women approaching the guys.

                                  Avery

                                  I read about it,too,even if never experienced it with one of my ex.If addicted to masturbation,they may have problem to get erect for sex.But I think it is unusual.

                                  In your case,he may be stressed and the stimulation with your hand helped his body to react "mechanically",no matter the stress.

                                      Vanessa In your case,he may be stressed and the stimulation with your hand helped his body to react "mechanically",no matter the stress.

                                      Yup, performance anxiety maybe, or some stress totally unrelated to what we were doing.

                                          @Avery
                                          @Vanessa
                                          I hear exercising builds up testosterones and allows one to perform longer when it comes to sexual activity. Another possibility is that the men you met doesn't exercise or have a low sex drive. I don't notice a large difference, and its been many years since I last exercised (7 yrs since I left the military), so I can't make a good comparison between then and now.

                                          @Lightnin_47
                                          To be honest, you should talk to someone before giving a key randomly and explaining it later. At least be upfront on what it's for, and if they accept the responsibility, then they could take the key. It'll be awkward to explain if your sister finds the key and asks what its for, or throws it away thinking its not anyone's.

                                            Lightnin_47 Yeah i wanted to talk about it to my sister, she probably would take the keys but i don't know how she would react.
                                            Plus i don't completely trust her, I'm scared she would hide the key

                                            It's been a while now since you deposited the key in your sister's room. Have there been developments since then? Does your sister know now what those keys are for?

                                                Raziel I hear exercising builds up testosterones and allows one to perform longer when it comes to sexual activity. Another possibility is that the men you met doesn't exercise or have a low sex drive. I don't notice a large difference,

                                                I like looking at guys who exercise more, runners and swimmers, not weight lifting types. But as long as the guy I like can perform reasonably well I don't care, I just want him to be gentle and spend some time making sure I end up satisfied.

                                                    Avery performance anxiety

                                                    I think it can likely be the case.

                                                    Raziel Another possibility is that the men you met doesn't exercise or have a low sex drive.

                                                    Possible,too,yes.

                                                    Raziel It'll be awkward to explain if your sister finds the key and asks what its for, or throws it away thinking its not anyone's.

                                                    I agree.

                                                          2 months later

                                                          carg Hi, sorry if I'm too late.
                                                          After i posted this topic i decided to put the keys in my sister's room.
                                                          She didn't know what the keys were for and they stayed in her room for almost a month, then i took them back and i removed the chastity cage.
                                                          Since then my masturbation problems decreased so i don't need constant chastity, i just lock myself up a few days a month (and in this cases my sister hold the keys, even If she still doesn't know what they are for).
                                                          So that's my current situation, thanks for all the advices you all gave me they really helped a lot🙏

                                                              Lightnin_47

                                                              I am glad that you are feeling better and that your desire for masturbation has returned to normal 🙂

                                                              Lightnin_47 even If she still doesn't know what they are for

                                                              Didn't she ever ask? surprising 😮

                                                                  5 days later

                                                                  Lightnin_47 Since then my masturbation problems decreased so i don't need constant chastity,

                                                                  That's good do you feel more sensitive that you aren't squishing yourself raw???

                                                                  Avery I like looking at guys who exercise more, runners and swimmers, not weight lifting types

                                                                  Avery not weight lifting types.

                                                                  Yeah I watch my husband lift big weights and wonder why they do the same move over and over. It's upp twist over head down. Up and down up and down. It's the same weight every time like whatever you already won last time.

                                                                  I like to do leg raises with him but I'm not going to do the same thing over and over and over.

                                                                  Well my husband doesn't look sinewy or have any awful tattoos but yeah running would be nice. I don't have a treadmill my old broke and it's to cold outside.

                                                                          Megan It's the same weight every time like whatever you already won last time.

                                                                          😂😆

                                                                          You are right! Lately I have to do more exercise in the gym, and I find it boring, luckily there are screens and places to put the smartphone.
                                                                          I do see results in my way of playing, but it is not entertaining.

                                                                              Ines You are right! Lately I have to do more exercise in the gym, and I find it boring,

                                                                              i recently did it once with my best friend, she had a voucher for a free trial lesson. frankly never again, only outdoor sports, it's more interesting and more fun. 😂

                                                                                Megan I watch my husband lift big weights and wonder why they do the same move over and over.

                                                                                Gah what is it with guys?! Weights have their place but endless compression / pumping is just not functional! I'm with @Avery, athletic beats beefcake any day.