Vanessa As the door would not be closed anymore during it,I guess she would not be able to disobey.

as i understand it, the door is just not locked anymore. that's why i ask. i can hardly imagine her calling out: "mom, please come into the bathroom and put my belt back on".

    Vanessa Until now,it seems her parents were fair about the rules,so I doubt they would betray this agreement.

    There was no serious reason for it yet.

      Amira Wow, that's a very tough decision. So to be sure I understand it right, you are still allowed releases but you're not allowed to touch yourself anymore, right? And if so, how long do you plan to keep it that way?

        Angelina

        Possible,but she write "closed",and,in this situation,it would make sense...

        Renita

        I doubt it.

        You seem to think every keyholder would betray an agreement,which is far to be always the case(even if it is what happened to you).

          Vanessa Possible,but she write "closed",and,in this situation,it would make sense...

          right, maybe @Amira mira can clarify that again 😉

          Vanessa You seem to think every keyholder would betray an agreement,which is far to be always the case

          right my father told me from the beginning the belt stays until the wedding

            Vanessa You seem to think every keyholder would betray an agreement

            Every keyholder of an unwed daughter, because they want to protect her.

              Renita But that doesn't necessarily mean they need ot betray her.

              Raziel Not again. why is my comment wrong? Renita said that she thinks every keyholder betrays them. Vanessa said not every keyholder betrays them. And I just agreed with Vanessa, so I said if they want to protect her, it doesn't mean they have to betray her. Why is everything I write wrong? Vanessa and Renita talked aboutt he whole thing as well

                Raziel

                Chris1

                in this case i have to agree with Chris, the questions do not seem unreasonable to me, so from my point of view everything is ok

                  Angelina right, maybe @Amira mira can clarify that again 😉

                  I'm pretty sure she meant "door open" but yes,she can explain it.

                  Angelina right my father told me from the beginning the belt stays until the wedding

                  Were you surprised it was going to be used so long?

                  Renita

                  Which does not mean they would betray her.

                  They can tell at the start it would be until wedding,however,for example.

                  Chris1

                  @Raziel quoted one of your precedent post,not the one you agree with me.

                    Vanessa I'm pretty sure she meant "door open" but yes,she can explain it.

                    yes, that would make more sense

                    Vanessa Were you surprised it was going to be used so long?

                    No, but frankly I didn't expect him to actually go through with it. 🙁

                      Amira I will still have the opportunity to take baths without the belt on for relaxation, but then the door to the bathroom can't be closed.

                      Now I'm quoting myself....

                      Vanessa Possible,but she write "closed",and,in this situation,it would make sense...

                      I meant that the door to the bathroom stays a bit open.

                      Raziel I thought it was about to go in the wrong direction.

                      so far the direction of the whole thread was perfectly ok to me 🙂

                      Chris1 So to be sure I understand it right, you are still allowed releases but you're not allowed to touch yourself anymore, right?

                      Hmmm, it is a bit more complicated than that: I want to stop it so I asked to stop these releases for that purpose, but not for the purpose of relaxing baths. I hope you understand what I mean.

                      Billy has your new agreement changed anything about thighbands? Do you think you will fight more or less because of this in the future?

                      I think I am going to fight less in the future and I never really put up a fight about the belt anyway, I sometimes fought against the effects of it when I was wearing it though.

                      there's a bit of news about my thigh bands. I started to wear them on Fridays from after school till around mid day of Saturday. I do so as my Mom said that she thinks this is something I should consider because friday is the most important day of the week in the muslim week.

                        Angelina Thank you. I mean, I just wanted to take part in the same discussion Vanessa and Renita were, and when Raziel answered it seemed as though he doesn't like anything I'm saying. All I did was agree with what Vanessa said. So thanks for agreein with me
                        Vanessa Oops, you're right. 😃 . I missed that. But still the same is true. Everybody had questions for amira, and of course my question was wrong again. I think Angelina is right too, the question was both legit and itnerestign for everyone

                          Raziel It's not your job to look out for me all the time. Ut's annoying

                          Amira Yes I think I understood that. And the releases for touching, when will you allow yourself that again?

                          Amira I meant that the door to the bathroom stays a bit open.

                          thank you for the clarification, now i understand 🙂 then i wish you a lot of fun and relaxation while bathing 😃

                          Amira there's a bit of news about my thigh bands. I started to wear them on Fridays from after school till around mid day of Saturday. I do so as my Mom said that she thinks this is something I should consider because friday is the most important day of the week in the muslim week.

                          how are you doing in general? are you holding up well without breaks so far? do you think the thighbands could even help you?

                          Chris1 Thank you. I mean, I just wanted to take part in the same discussion Vanessa and Renita were, and when Raziel answered it seemed as though he doesn't like anything I'm saying. All I did was agree with what Vanessa said. So thanks for agreein with me

                          as long as you remain polite and also accept if someone does not answer you are welcome to participate in any discussion 😉

                            The forum lives from being mindful of each other. That includes looking at it and addressing it when it gets out of hand. And everyone is allowed to do that.

                              Joh The forum lives from being mindful of each other. That includes looking at it and addressing it when it gets out of hand. And everyone is allowed to do that.

                              as long as this is done in a respectful way it is ok, you are doing it very well 🙂