Emergency key

HHelen

sun I think most of you should have an emergency key in your wallet.

Then it becomes a decorative lock, like a fashion item.

youdontknowme

HHelen
I mean, the emergency key could be tamper-sealed, but in this case you might as well have a non-locking fastener and a tamper seal on the belt itself. Basically, if the wearer comes home with a broken seal, they better have a good explanation why the belt had to come off.

Lock+key still has the advantage of potentially warding off drunk tomfoolery or pushy dates a bit more effectively than a belt with just a seal.

Angelina

youdontknowme

well, there should always be at least a small barrier and a mechanism to make sure that the key holder always knows when the emergency key is used. this can be done with seals (envelope or similar), or with number codes on ... something that only the key holder knows.

HHelen

youdontknowme hey better have a good explanation why the belt had to come off

"By accident".

youdontknowme

HHelen double tamper seals on the belt and the key with regular inspection of both should make that option extremely dubious. "Yeah, somehow that seal on the key container got damaged, which swept the key into the lock, turned it and removed the belt."

But yeah, designing a good seal is somewhat of a balance between making it easy enough to break intentionally in an emergency, but hard enough to break itself inadvertently.

HHelen

youdontknowme double tamper seals on the belt and the key with regular inspection of both should make that option extremely dubious

That's why I use both key and seal.

Owl

youdontknowme "Yeah, somehow that seal on the key container got damaged, which swept the key into the lock, turned it and removed the belt."

😆

Angelina

youdontknowme But yeah, designing a good seal is somewhat of a balance between making it easy enough to break intentionally in an emergency, but hard enough to break itself inadvertently.

well, when using a seal, i would proceed in such a way that if it breaks by mistake, i immediately contact the key holder and explain what happened, then one can usually prevent misunderstandings

Owl

HHelen

For daughter's belt or your own one, as well?

Off-Topic: You do currently wear yourself, don't you?

youdontknowme

Owl It is like those emergency room appointments where some dude was just innocently cleaning his apartment naked and unexpectedly fell off the ladder and butt-first onto a coke bottle

HHelen

Owl For daughter's belt or your own one, as well?

Hers.

Owl You do currently wear yourself, don't you?

I do.

Angelina

HHelen Hers.

and why not also with your own belt? 😉

Megan

Angelina and why not also with your own belt? 😉

I am certain Helens is fine. Are you asking why she doesn't seal the keys or ?

HHelen

Angelina and why not also with your own belt?

No demand.

Angelina

Megan I am certain Helens is fine. Are you asking why she doesn't seal the keys or ?

no, i mean her own belt 😉
that wasn't meant to be 100% serious, but I think same rights for everyone, right?

HHelen No demand.

would your daughter want it?

Ines

@HHelen elen is doing the best she can, she is serious about her daughter's regimen but not strict, and from the point she is wearing a belt herself her position is very solid.
In some cases I did not agree with her very much, but in general her attitude is acceptable.

Megan

Ines elen is doing the best she can

She is doing well I think.,
Everyone starts differently

HHelen

Angelina would your daughter want it?

No.

JonesMacGyver

If anyone is looking for a remote / Bluetooth solution for locking keys I just got one of these.

www.amazon.com/dp/B09C7V9798?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details. Currently about $45.00 USD. (subject to change with no notice 😀 )

The keyholder sets it up, and adds the person in chastity as a friend. I've had it less than a week, so I can't tell about long term stuff; however, it appears relatively simple and easy to use.

Angelina

JonesMacGyver

this is a great idea and also not expensive 😃

Owl

JonesMacGyver

Thank you. It seems interesting but the ad IMO also leaves open questions. To delve into more details, I outsourced that product into an own thread, and put my question (and worries) there. See: https://unwedchastity.org/d/744-imagic-bluetooth-key-lock-box-experience-comments/2

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