youdontknowme

well, there should always be at least a small barrier and a mechanism to make sure that the key holder always knows when the emergency key is used. this can be done with seals (envelope or similar), or with number codes on ... something that only the key holder knows.

    HHelen double tamper seals on the belt and the key with regular inspection of both should make that option extremely dubious. "Yeah, somehow that seal on the key container got damaged, which swept the key into the lock, turned it and removed the belt."

    But yeah, designing a good seal is somewhat of a balance between making it easy enough to break intentionally in an emergency, but hard enough to break itself inadvertently.

        youdontknowme double tamper seals on the belt and the key with regular inspection of both should make that option extremely dubious

        That's why I use both key and seal.

        • Owl replied to this.

            youdontknowme "Yeah, somehow that seal on the key container got damaged, which swept the key into the lock, turned it and removed the belt."

            😆

                HHelen

                For daughter's belt or your own one, as well?

                Off-Topic: You do currently wear yourself, don't you?

                    Owl It is like those emergency room appointments where some dude was just innocently cleaning his apartment naked and unexpectedly fell off the ladder and butt-first onto a coke bottle

                      youdontknowme But yeah, designing a good seal is somewhat of a balance between making it easy enough to break intentionally in an emergency, but hard enough to break itself inadvertently.

                      well, when using a seal, i would proceed in such a way that if it breaks by mistake, i immediately contact the key holder and explain what happened, then one can usually prevent misunderstandings

                        Owl For daughter's belt or your own one, as well?

                        Hers.

                        Owl You do currently wear yourself, don't you?

                        I do.

                              Angelina and why not also with your own belt? 😉

                              I am certain Helens is fine. Are you asking why she doesn't seal the keys or ?

                                  @HHelen elen is doing the best she can, she is serious about her daughter's regimen but not strict, and from the point she is wearing a belt herself her position is very solid.
                                  In some cases I did not agree with her very much, but in general her attitude is acceptable.

                                    Ines elen is doing the best she can

                                    She is doing well I think.,
                                    Everyone starts differently

                                      Megan I am certain Helens is fine. Are you asking why she doesn't seal the keys or ?

                                      no, i mean her own belt 😉
                                      that wasn't meant to be 100% serious, but I think same rights for everyone, right?

                                      HHelen No demand.

                                      would your daughter want it?

                                            5 days later
                                            7 days later

                                            If anyone is looking for a remote / Bluetooth solution for locking keys I just got one of these.

                                            www.amazon.com/dp/B09C7V9798?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details. Currently about $45.00 USD. (subject to change with no notice 😀 )

                                            The keyholder sets it up, and adds the person in chastity as a friend. I've had it less than a week, so I can't tell about long term stuff; however, it appears relatively simple and easy to use.

                                              5 months later

                                              CharInChastity
                                              Do you think we have bolts in urgency boxes? 😂
                                              Obviously tools can be achieved, but medical staff losses time.
                                              A belt in a hospital is always a problem it should go out.