Renita I still take pills, despite the belt.

Oh yeah that reason - never needed them for thatπŸ˜‚ Nah pills make the belt easier anyway.

    BD1791 Abstinence is the best way of preventing unwanted pregnancy.

    But it's the way with the highest risk of failing, how good abstinence is working you can see on teenagers in US high schools where they teach abstinence as the bed solution.

    BD1791 That means understanding the risk and deciding for yourself if it's a risk you want to take.

    That's what I say. The girls should make an educated decision themselves. Not the parents.

      Sara2001 But it's the way with the highest risk of failing

      Lol... You should read my sentence right after that one. I already covered your argument πŸ‘

        BD1791 Lol... You should read my sentence right after that one. I already covered your argument πŸ‘

        Yes, we absolutely agree in this point. I think the way with the highest risk of failing can't be the best way.

          Sara2001 Yes, we absolutely agree in this point. I think the way with the highest risk of failing can't be the best way.

          I wonder how much the teen pregnancy rate would fall in the US if teens were belted. I'm sure substantially πŸ˜‚

          Also, most parts of the US does not have comprehensive sex educated. We don't even teach about condoms. It's a real problem.

            Jen Oh yeah that reason - never needed them for that

            Never needed yet πŸ˜ƒ

              The most we have used is condom.It seems that she doesn't like it.So sometimes we used pills too.We have not find side effects now,though the instructions say they may have some side effects.
              I think it's very important to control the total dosage to avoid side effects.

                Sara2001 But it's the way with the highest risk of failing

                A chastity belt eliminates this risk πŸ˜‚

                  sun I think it's very important to control the total dosage to avoid side effects.

                  And time. Not extend time over 3 years.

                    Ines And time. Not extend time over 3 years.

                    I think the average time woman take them is far higher then 3 years (if they take them). Many girls start around 14 and stop when they want kids between there late 20s and early 30s.

                      Sara2001 think the average time woman take them is far higher then 3 years

                      And it implies certain risk. In 2017, a large Danish prospective study reported breast cancer risks associated with newer formulations of oral contraceptives.

                      Women who have used oral contraceptives for 5 years or more have a higher risk of cervical cancer than women who have never used oral contraceptives. The longer a woman uses oral contraceptives, the greater her risk of cervical cancer increases. One study found a 10% increased risk for less than 5 years of use; a 60% increased risk for 5 to 9 years of use, and twice the risk for 10 or more years of use.

                      Smith JS, Green J, Berrington de Gonzalez A, et al. Cervical cancer and use of hormonal contraceptives: a systematic review. Lancet 2003; 361(9364):1159-1167.

                      Of course, these are studies, but the most important thing is what each girl tells her doctor, who is the one who can best assess different markers in analytics.

                        (Moved answer from other thread (see https://unwedchastity.org/d/40-breaks-for-masturbation/591 ) to the one at-hand, since it seem to be more on-topic here.)

                        Sara2001 Or using preservatives or the anti baby pill, like round about a billion woman in the last 50 years.

                        Know what you mean, yet those mentioned usually require ongoing, conscious actions, which some do not manage or are unwilling to take. Not to speak of "adverse sexual 'partners'". In this regard, consequences of errors and 'bad outcomes' can just be extremely serious.
                        I know cases where people regret to have bet on preservatives and pills.

                          Owl I know cases where people regret to have bet on preservatives and pills.

                          I know cases where people regret being in a chastity belt. Nothing is perfect but both ways are save enough if done correctly. I am very happy that the usage is teached at school in Germany.

                            Ines I didn't know - I got a vaccine for cervical cancer. Did you get it? Is the pill still a risk of you have the vaccine? Nobody told me about cancer

                              Jen

                              Hi @Jen.
                              The vaccine is actually against the human papilloma virus. This virus causes 90% of cervical cancers, but it is effective only in those that are virogenic, not cancers for any other reason.
                              Oral contraceptives alter the susceptibility of the cells of the cervix to HPV infections, so that, obviously, protection will decrease, but I could not tell you what percentage, I am not a vaccinologist! πŸ˜…
                              However, it is certain that the vaccine continues to be effective in a high percentage.

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                              BD1791 Also, most parts of the US does not have comprehensive sex educated. We don't even teach about condoms. It's a real problem.

                              it doesn't work, the problem is mainly seen in republican-led states. it doesn't work to simply keep quiet about the issue and hope: if it's not talked about, it won't be done.

                              Ines Women who have used oral contraceptives for 5 years or more have a higher risk of cervical cancer than women who have never used oral contraceptives. The longer a woman uses oral contraceptives, the greater her risk of cervical cancer increases. One study found a 10% increased risk for less than 5 years of use; a 60% increased risk for 5 to 9 years of use, and twice the risk for 10 or more years of use.

                              this will probably be true (you know a lot more than i do), but it always depends on the absolute numbers. just as an example: if only one person in the world has a disease, then a second person would mean an increase of 100%. what i want to say is that the numbers have no value without absolute numbers and no this has nothing to do with medicine, but with statistics.

                                Ines

                                Of course, I just want to point out that an increase says nothing about absolute numbers.

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                                Sara2001

                                Sure. We are both part of the forum for long enough to know ... Both statements can exist in parallel.

                                I'm probably touched and impacted by life events where the way of dealing with contraception was disastrous, to say the least. That's why I want to somewhat emphasize that contraception which either requires active usage and/or medical (pharmaceutical or surgical) interventions in one's own body can be problematic. The medical methods make the contraceptive benefits of a belt seem superfluous at first glance. If that works for people - and a majority of people in western probably rely on that - they should be happy! The consequences if it doesn't (or doesn't any more) can just be extremely grave…

                                To turn the page back: With full consideration of the mentioned cases of "regretting belting", I'd still dare to say: Undoing one's chastity devices (physically) is a matter of key(s) and a few seconds. In horror cases it might require the right place, tools and skills for lockpicking or breaking the belt and (?) mere minutes. Undoing a pregnancy is a very different territory… (*)

                                And I'm not just telling this with respect to the US and in light of the current Roe v. Wade-Descision (cp. own thread: https://unwedchastity.org/d/732-roe-vs-wade-overturned ), or with respect to even stricter countries. Even in western Europe that pregnancy might change the career of entire families. I wish everyone that this happens in a more positive way.

                                EDIT/ Update
                                (*) For the sake of completeness: As is adverse reactions to drugs etc. Could also occur both together or in rapid succession.

                                Laura A chastity belt eliminates this risk πŸ˜‚

                                Renita Never needed yet πŸ˜ƒ

                                Jen Oh yeah that reason - never needed them for thatπŸ˜‚ Nah pills make the belt easier anyway.

                                Renita I still take pills, despite the belt.

                                When you are married don't forget whichever birth control you and your doctor decide.
                                If you never worried about getting pregnant before you might forget about that for a few seconds before you remember 🀣 🀣 πŸ˜… πŸ˜