Mens and womens things
youdontknowme Encouraging girls to take a look at male-majority professions is not about interfering with their choices, but about finding a new equilibrium that reflects actual natural differences
the question is whether these differences have to be abolished. in this day and age, a woman can become anything she wants. i think it's more important to tell women that they should let themselves be pressed into a profession because of social schemes. if afterwards the weight is still 90 to 10 for the men, then it has happened naturally.
that's why i'm also against this eternal egalitarianism. i want the best to get the best posts, regardless of whether it's a man or a woman.
Ines there are plenty of studies that show that traditionally âmaleâ subjects like engineering and sciences and medicine are taken on and excelled at by women IF they are offered them in a single sex school.
As soon as you have a co-Ed school or college the old gender stereotypes appear, girls do âgirlâ stuff, boys do âboyâ stuff.
Yes, there are usually physical differences between men and women, but that doesnât mean that girls canât do very well in a lot of traditionally male environments. There are plenty of female doctors and scientists.
Yes, of course, there are too plenty of another studies.
When did not exist references, women studied medicine, -me, for example-, or veterinary, psychology, nursery...
Why our grandmothers did not choose physics, for example?
We can not fight against biology, and we are different.
that there are women doctors in physics or tank drivers? Yes, but they are not the majority, in the same way that there are men who are nurses.
There is an important bias to which, obviously, there are exceptions.
For example, my case, I was a good student, and I was good at math, and physics... but I hated it.
Women "normally" have a brain more oriented to certain fields, which does not mean that there are no women who are brilliant mathematicians.
Here, in the West, nobody is going to look badly at a woman for being a mathematician, I have a friend studying, but, in general, it is a field that does not seduce us.
I think that many women have a lot of complexes and think it is bad that, in general, we do not like being train drivers. I do not see any men lamenting that, in general, they do not like being nurses or preschool teachers.
Ines Women "normally" have a brain more oriented to certain fields
No I think thats how we have been brought up to believe we are.
Ines Why our grandmothers did not choose physics, for example?
Because that was largely denied to them. They were expected to stay at home, do domestic chores and produce children.
I'm not saying men and women are equal in every way, clearly we aren't. But I do think it's sad that women are still promoting the idea that other women are naturally not capable of "male" jobs.
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hanna_anders No I think thats how we have been brought up to believe we are.
It is biology, our brain is different, with different connections to that of men and more active brain activity in different fields.
It affects many things, because, in general, men are better at spatial vision and we are, for example, at judging people.
There is a biological basis, which is not absolute and there are numerous exceptions and almost no human being meets all the requirements of "woman" or "man" but yes, generally a majority.
And this doesn't mean that a woman can't be a great marksman or a man speak 10 languages ââfluently.
Hormones not only define genitals and muscles, our brains are slightly different and it has to be that way, otherwise, if it were the same we would be dumber because our brain is significantly smaller.
hanna_anders Because that was largely denied to them. They were expected to stay at home, do domestic chores and produce children.
I mean when they could choose and go to the University, it is evident that, when they could not go to the University, there were no women, no physicist, no doctor, or anything.
But when they could because they chose what they chose?
Why do women who study science in high school opt for medicine and not physics?
Why, at least here, the girls who like technical drawing choose architecture at the University and not, for example, mining engineering?
The answer for me is simple, we are not idiots and just as men admit without shame that they do not like nursing, we women have to say that we do not like working on a scaffold and that, generally, study physics either.
hanna_anders IF they are offered them in a single sex school.
i am generally not a fan of this. in normal life, i.e. at work or in private life, there will always be both men and women, who sometimes also compete with each other. all-girls schools give a false impression of real life.
for example, i was always very good at maths and bad at languages, contrary to what is portrayed in many studies. the problem is also that some teachers consider these clichĂ©s to be scientifically based. i think it is important to develop one's own interests regardless of what others claim. 
Angelina The social classroom dynamics. Both between teaches and students and between different students.
Though personally I am not a fan of such gender segregation, not only because of Angelina's argument that most of life is not segregated, but also because of how it exposes gender minorities who do not perfectly fit with either group to harm.
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Angelina If both are in the same lesson Girls are slower to respond to questions than boys regardless of whether they know for sure or not. So they hold back even though they often know better. This creates an imbalance that does not occur when they are taught separately.
Please keep in mind that we are talking about the development phase. This is different from later in life after you have found your point of view.
I agree it is good for both of them to be together but not all the time.
Angelina its a proven effect. girls dont like to be seen doing "hard" subjects if they are with boys. Look it up.
hanna_anders its a proven effect. girls dont like to be seen doing "hard" subjects if they are with boys. Look it up.
Very proven: https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/reasons-girls-dont-study-physics-132109504.html
Ines What barriers has a girl that decides to study physics?
I put myself as example: I had good marks but I did not like it.
Sure. But how many times at school did and do other girls and boys act toward you in a sexist way; assuming you donât have the mental skill to handle a task.
Iâm going to assume itâs fair to say itâs more than 0 - which is not a problem boys have.
Its a bit like saying what barriers does a girl have walking down a street with the odd streetlight out. Itâs a street is it not?
Well... none really. What joke did they mess with me? Yes, but in the same way that we messed with the boys.
What you say about the street is true, but it is not the men's fault, it is the rapists' fault. Unfortunately as long as there are houses, there will be thieves, and as long as there are women there will be a criminal typology that is rape.
There, biology gave us bad cards and we have to accept it. We have to be careful and we can not fall into the discourse of "if we tell girls to be careful we are holding them responsible", I do not know in your country, but in mine you hear it a lot.
It would be the same as saying that when the summer season arrives and a police officer always goes on television to remember security rules to avoid robberies "by telling a homeowner to take precautions, the owner of the house is being held responsible of the robbery."