Alcohol Monitoring Bracelets

6373e6b2

6373e6b2 the reason why both of these things are possible as court ordered limitation/punishment is that in these cases nobody cares that much about how bulky the device is and there are frequent opportunities to recharge the battery and frequent checks that also allow the authorities to replace the reactants.

kat_anders

Angelina you should never drive drunk in general, i think that normal common sense should be sufficient for that, all those who do it anyway are not reasonably informed about the consequences

unfortunately thats not true - people who drink and drive are very well aware of the consequences, they just dont think they need to be bothered as nothing will ever happen to them. In other words, they are simply selfish idiots.

curious

kat_anders they just dont think they need to be bothered as nothing will ever happen to them

Or they think they have the amount they drink under control, staying under the legal limit (most countries do not have a 0.00% limit).
For that reason I am very much in favour of 0.01% rules (not 0.00% because even most fruit juices contain a very tiny amount of ethanol and you don't want people to be in trouble legally for drinking fruit juice.
But 0.01% is low enough, that you cannot even drink half a glass of beer. So no way to try to intentionally drink alcohol yet stay under the limit.

Angelina

kat_anders unfortunately thats not true - people who drink and drive are very well aware of the consequences, they just dont think they need to be bothered as nothing will ever happen to them. In other words, they are simply selfish idiots.

i am usually against government intervention, but something has to be done here, the risk is simply too high. there are cars that don't start if someone is not wearing a seatbelt, this technology could be combined with a breathalyser, i.e. everyone has to blow before the car starts, of course difficult to control when there are several people in the car, but a possibility.

hanna_anders

curious it could be that, yes, but I think it’s more likely the kind of people who think rules don’t apply to them.

curious

hanna_anders There are definitely both kinds around. How common one or the other is, I cannot say.

kat_anders

curious just watch the idiots falling out of bars and getting into cars, so drunk they can barely walk but then they drive home...

youdontknowme

Angelina Those things exist, and some jurisdictions require repeat DUI offenders to put it in their car once they get their license back.

Angelina

youdontknowme

then simply install it in all cars and the problem is solved, then the police don't have to constantly stop people who might just be tired

bdsamm

The state of

arizona USA requires that a peron convicted of DUI have an ignition breathalyzer installed in order to get their license back (after the 1 yearar suspension), The cases I know about the breathalyser was required for a year,.

Philip

Angelina They tried to install them on cars back in the late 90's in the UK. Great idea but it made the cars more expensive so no one bought them.

youdontknowme

Angelina We would still pay for it via taxes, and I doubt that it would pay for itself with a reduction in police stops.

Angelina then the police don't have to constantly stop people who might just be tired

If your driving shows signs of impairment, you should get stopped. Whether it is alcohol or tiredness is secondary, you should at least be told to watch your driving because your senses might not be at peak performance, and if it is worse you should be expected to end your travel right there until you get better.

Angelina

Philip Great idea but it made the cars more expensive so no one bought them.

then it has to be funded by the state, that would be a sensible issue 😉

Angelina

youdontknowme We would still pay for it via taxes, and I doubt that it would pay for itself with a reduction in police stops.

well, you could also invest some money from what you invest elsewhere in the system instead, then it wouldn't cost us any more, it would just be distributed differently

youdontknowme Whether it is alcohol or tiredness is secondary,

That's right, the example wasn't well chosen. i just think tiredness can't always be avoided and i have enough friends who were stopped even though the police had no accusation at all

curious

Angelina
Do you know what hours for example doctors on duty work? The system that is trying to save money on the back of junior doctors is kind of forcing them to work these excessive hours, so no, it cannot easily avoided.

It is really all about money. A breathalizer in every car is pretty useless as long as you do not prevent another person to "unlock" the car. Imagine a father having a few beer during a bbq in the garden with friends. Come early evening, the son has to go for football practice and so the father would order him to unlock the car for him, so he can drive the son to his training.
You cannot solve a problem that is founded in the society (general availability and acceptance of alcohol) with technical means, I am afraid.

bdsamm

curious The ignition interlock on my friends car had a sensor to detect whether it was her blowing in it. She had to hum and I guess the sound had to match what was recorded in it. Not sure how well that worked but I know she frequently had to make multiple tries to pass the test.

Angelina

curious

yes, i understand that it is not that easy. i think the combination of alcohol and car is the absolute horror, we have to find something against it.

curious

bdsamm
When fitted by court order after DUI that might work, but you cannot customise a car to fit one driver only from the factory if you want to sell it.
Breathalizers as a standard in every car is just not gonna happen.

reactionary69

What really needs to be invented is a self locking CB coupled with an alcohol and drug sensor. 🤣🤣🤣

Angelina

reactionary69 What really needs to be invented is a self locking CB coupled with an alcohol and drug sensor. 🤣🤣🤣

and the belt is only opened if the person has not consumed anything to protect them from making rash sexual decisions. 😂

curious

Angelina think the combination of alcohol and car is the absolute horror, we have to find something against it.

The solution is not one of technology but of changing the society towards not accepting the use of alcohol as 'normal'.
A strict limit of 0.01% when driving would be a first step so people no longer think that one glass of Wi e or beer for dinner and driving home afterwards is fine.
Countries that have zero alcohol when driving laws actually have less alcohol related accidents.
And when you get used to not to drink alcohol with your lunch or dinner, this will slowly change the attitude towards alcohol. A lengthy process, but worth following.

youdontknowme

Angelina Add a breathalyzer on top so the potential partner has to be sober as well. Hygiene unlocks would have to be handled separately of course, but given that full belt removal would also limit the ability to ensure proper re-locking (so the alco-belt would probably just remove the shield and keep the waistband in place), you would need a separate mechanism for removing the belt anyway.

Of course blowing the breathalyzer would look suggestive, but considering the use case, that is probably not a big worry.

bdsamm

Angelina Jay at Fancy Steel could probably make such a belt. See his female advanced belt.