Complaining - requirements - bribes - I dunno

Angelina

I think you are both right in parts. Carg is right about the time, I think it was all too short notice and the time was very short for @Jen to decide, probably to put pressure, which I think is very negative. Curious is also right though, @Jen always had the option to say no to the deal, so there was no real force.

Jonas

Angelina I can see both sides too, but I think this is a work in progress. Both keyholder and wearer are still working out between them where this is all going to end up.

Angelina

Jonas I can see both sides too, but I think this is a work in progress. Both keyholder and wearer are still working out between them where this is all going to end up.

right, how it goes on must be determined by @Jen

curious If you give "fun" as reason, people might expect you actually have the key.

and even if it is? it's nobody's business. she can talk openly about it or not, nobody has the right to question it, at least not with adults.

Jen

carg I agree with @Amira that your mother's action was not OK, and that to me it sounds like she is trying to get more control again.

This doesn't feel like what's happening, like control is the wrong word I think. I mean yeah she wants sex and playing with myself completely banned - but I agree and I agree for myself not to please her.

I mean yeah the car thing - I just don't want to worry - like worrying about that is anxiety type thinking.

carg so my advice would be not to get too attached to the car: there might come a time where she wants something you really don't want, and you need to feel free to say no then.

Yes, yes. Yeah feeling trapped is a downward spiral for my thoughts. It being something they can take away is easier actually.

curious There is a difference between being open about wearing a belt and being open about the reason and details involved.
I think a statement that everyone - even authorities should accept can be: "This belt is so I stay a virgin until my wedding night. And that is what I want."

"I think it's fun" is easier. But agree - no-one IRL knows the full reasons.

curious

Jen "I think it's fun" is easier. But agree - no-one IRL knows the full reasons.

If you give "fun" as reason, people might expect you actually have the key.
For example at a security checkpoint (airport or otherwise) and expect you to take the belt off so they can go about their business as usual and you are not making their job harder.
If you make clear you wear it for a reason (willingly entered agreement that now is binding), they will have to accept that you cannot easily remove it and the have to handle your belt as part of their job.
And by the way: Yes, you can board a flight in a chastity belt. The devices of course detect metal, but it is not metal that is actually prohibited but a weapon.

Jen

curious lol so serious. Yeah I want them to think I've got the keys. Like if I discussed all that in IRL then I wouldn't need to chat here

curious

Angelina it's nobody's business. she can talk openly about it or not, nobody has the right to question it, at least not with adults.

What I meant was:
If at a security checkpoint the personnel thinks you have the key, they might not let you pass but demand you go and come back without belt.
If however they believe you have no way to remove the belt, they will have to deal with processing you and clearing your security access with the belt locked on your body.

Angelina

curious

of course, in that case i agree with you, it only doesn't work if the parents have the keys and could therefore get into problems with minors. in general, however, it would also be very unpleasant for me because i'm usually not alone with the security at the airport and anyone could overhear that.

curious

Angelina
Airport handling is easy. Instead of telling them about chastity belt, you simply say, you have a metal device which triggers the magnetometer which you are unable to remove and ask for being wandec or padded down in a private room.
There are people with metal implants, braces, etc all the time. So carefully wording things to get privacy without revealing anything in public is the key.

Angelina

curious

of course i can show myself in a private room, but that could still cause problems with security or the authorities, i wouldn't want to take that risk. i had a loose brace myself, it never set off the metal detector haha 😂

carg

curious How can something you never had before be considered a necessity?

Because Jen's life is changing: at her age she needs more independence. And from what I seem to understand from the explanation of the 'schoolies', Jen has finished her last exams now, so she will start higher education soon, I assume. That is likely to be farther away than high school, so she might need her own transportation.
(I don't really understand why her last school year seems to end in December; does the higher education start in January then??)

Ines

carg (I don't really understand why her last school year seems to end in December; does the higher education start in January then?

It is their Summer.
It is as for us, but they have Christmas in Summer.

Angelina

carg

that's true, for example i didn't have a car before my 18th birthday, now i wouldn't want to do without it and somehow i also need it because my way to university would otherwise be 3 times as long. needs simply grow with age too

Jen

carg lots of my friends got a car from parents or grandparents, but they're mostly richer than us too I think I'm lucky enough. Bus to uni or Tafe isn't too bad so I don't really need it. Mum better get her new one ordered soon! Keeps borrowing my car!;!

Angelina

Jen Mum better get her new one ordered soon! Keeps borrowing my car!;!

i hope that you will soon be able to dispose of the car freely, your mother should keep her part of the deal. 😉

Ines

Angelina should keep her part of the deal. 😉

I think Jen should introduce a belt for her mother too.... 🤭

Angelina

Ines I think Jen should introduce a belt for her mother too.... 🤭

somehow I expected this answer 😂

Jen

Ines I think Jen should introduce a belt for her mother too.... 🤭

Yeah!!! There's a precident for car borrowing in this family!!🤣🤣🤣

youdontknowme

Angelina Only fair if she keeps borrowing the car that was supposed to be at Jen's disposal.

The alternative would be to let Jen be unchaste whenever her mum has the car, but I do not think anyone in that arrangement wants that.

Angelina

youdontknowme Only fair if she keeps borrowing the car that was supposed to be at Jen's disposal.

yes, although @Jen does all this voluntarily, the mother would do it as part of an agreement. I think the best thing would be if @Jen just got in control of the car like it was promised 😉

Jen Yeah!!! There's a precident for car borrowing in this family!!🤣🤣🤣

Ines I can see to your father:
"Fine, darling, we can buy a new car for you, but... "

🤣 🤣 🤣

Ines

Jen
I can see to your father:
"Fine, darling, we can buy a new car for you, but... "

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