Andrew I have a question for people

I applaud your efforts @Andrew but I fear you waste your time. Families are of course entitled to their strongly held and detailed beliefs, and I applaud strongly held and detailed beliefs, but all you will get is statements, no reasons, as @Kaja 's posting points out. You won't get any whys.

Andrew the results negated my hypothesis regarding the relationship between masturbation and religiousness. Almost all respondents who found masturbation unacceptable also declared themselves non-religious.

Yes. Religions teach God made the body and to declare he made mistakes in what he did and we can't use the body he gave us is either blasphemous or heresy, I can never make out the difference.

        Rafael Female sexuality is deeper than that of men, it must always be linked to feeling, a quick and empty pleasure does not bring them anything,

        When I used to masturbate I always had a particular boy in mind, someone I cared about. I felt it connected us. So you are correct, female sexuality is deeper. My brothers masturbate to porn.

        And it was not quick and empty. I took a lot more time with myself than any boy ever did and enjoyed myself thoroughly.

          I think masturbation is appropriate and healthy in moderation, but it can also easily become a trap that leads to unhealthy behavior if left unchecked. So while moderate and excessive/compulsive masturbation must be judged differently, you cannot really judge one without considering the other.

          As far as gender norms and modesty are concerned, I am a firm believer in equal rights and opportunities for all sexes and gender identities, so for me to accept any argument that one of them deserves a significantly different treatment than the other, I expect good reasons, not just a "that's how it is". If you were to argue that female modesty is more important than male modesty because that is a tradition you identify with, I can accept that as a good argument for living that lifestyle yourself, but not one an argument that is any good for convincing others outside that cultural circle of the same lifestyle.

          Particularly in growing people, masturbation appears to me to be a healthy outlet for exploring your own sexuality and relieving sexual needs without engaging in dangerous behavior that risks anything from disease to unplanned pregnancy to exploitation by predators. And sexual exploration matters because young people need to learn to control their sexual expression and not to rely on outside enforcement for that control.

          If there is one situation in which I would call moderate amounts of masturbation morally dubious, it would be in the context of a committed relationship. Not saying that masturbation while you have a partner is automatically bad, but you and your partner ought to be on the same page regarding whether using masturbation as a sexual outlet instead of waiting for an opportunity to do it with your partner is acceptable, or in what situations it is and when it is not.

          As far as distractions are concerned, personally I spent way more time on sexual thoughts when I am denying myself orgasms than when I have them regularly. But I recognize that probably varies by individual and may have some gender bias in its variance as well. So your mileage may vary.

          Finally, speaking of individual variance, I believe there is no one right system for everyone. How much masturbation is appropriate is something each individual must find out (or decide) for themself.

            youdontknowme
            I agree with you on your posting.

            I would like to add. The feelings I have when I masturbate and when I have sex with my partner are different. I can't say if it's better or worse. Only that it is different.
            From this experience I conclude that it will be the same for everyone and they have to decide for themselves what they prefer. And no one else can do that.

              youdontknowme If there is one situation in which I would call moderate amounts of masturbation morally dubious, it would be in the context of a committed relationship. Not saying that masturbation while you have a partner is automatically bad, but you and your partner ought to be on the same page regarding whether using masturbation as a sexual outlet instead of waiting for an opportunity to do it with your partner is acceptable, or in what situations it is and when it is not.

              Excellent presentation. In my age group, people going off to different universities hundreds of miles apart is fairly common. People of both sexes join the military and separate for months at a time. I have told the story of my high school boy friend going off to play baseball all summer. So just as you say you have to be on the same page as to what behaviors are OK.

                Avery

                Families are of course entitled to their strongly held and detailed beliefs, and I applaud strongly held and detailed beliefs, but all you will get is statements, no reasons, as @Kaja 's posting points out. You won't get any whys.

                Sometimes, even on the basis of statements, it is possible to find out what the reasons are behind them. Therefore, even these types of answers are valuable in my opinion, especially if they are sufficiently developed and detailed.

                  youdontknowme If you were to argue that female modesty is more important than male modesty because that is a tradition you identify with, I can accept that as a good argument for living that lifestyle yourself,

                  He is saying it. He does not expect convince to anyone. He responded according our thinking:

                  Rafael but in the end these are our beliefs and I know that we are not the only ones to share opinion.

                  Kaja No proofs for your words.

                  They are our beliefs, not science.

                  Kaja But it is a CRIME that you are DESTROYING sexuality of your childrens.

                  He can respond by himself, but firstly in our family any child wears a belt, and anyone has sexuality destroyed.

                            Jonas

                            Modern medicine and psychology adds the caveat that masturbation is a problem if it becomes distressing to the masturbator.

                            I have never come across such a reservation in the context of masturbation, rather in cases of sexual paraphilias. It is possible, that some doctors and psychologists use an analogy here.

                            Further, society only accepts masturbation is normal if it's done in secret.

                            It's rather obvious, as with sexual relations.

                            The NoFAP movement and the widespread availability of hardcore porn has had a effect on modern medical opinion. There is a noticeable push-back on the relaxed, liberal, sexual views of the 60s onwards.

                            Looking at the changes in the ICD classification in recent years (ICD-10 -> ICD-11), I would say the exact opposite.

                                Rafael A very interesting answer. I see the dominance of cultural factors in it. Could you tell me what country are you from and what religion do you follow?

                                  Andrew So I wonder what makes them reject the view expressed by mainstream medicine and psychology.

                                  Truly there is not "mainstream" medicine talking about It. There are some articles, but mainly related to male masturbation, there are not medical evidences about any benefits of female masturbation.
                                  Relief sexual tension, strength vaginal area, sleep well... are not benefits, since they are small, exist other ways to achieve those, or are unnecessary in most of girls.
                                  Sexology is the "science" that touches more the topic, and obviously it has an important basis bias.

                                  Andrew but none of them apply here...

                                  No, certainly there is better motivation an reasons.

                                  I share most of thinking of my uncle, but I think that exist another reason, it reinforces the path of behavior, setting and accomplishing the prohibition, it is obvious that all bad behaviors of a sexual nature move away from us.

                                  I am not saying that this is nothing set in stone, and there are girls like @Sin or @Kaja who have another philosophy ans it's perfect for me, I do not say my morality is better, but I do not want their life for myself.

                                        Ines Im sorry but I think that he is the same sexual predator of Charlotte.

                                        Parents of charlotte use hard metods (drugs...), your parents use brainwashing. Metods are differents, but princip is the same. Im sorry for you. I dont want to offend anybody, but it is my personal opinion.

                                            Jonas Further, society only accepts masturbation is normal if it's done in secret.

                                            Private, methinks, is how it should be done. If you force your children to keep their sexuality a secret they are apt to feel it's something to feel guilty about. They will likely feel they cannot discuss it with you and will get their information from other people which is not what many folks here want.

                                              Kaja Im sorry for you.

                                              I feel exactly the same for you.
                                              I find very disgusting the apology of sexuality in your environment. 🤷🏻‍♀️

                                              Kaja parents use brainwashing.

                                              Kaja he is the same sexual predator of Charlotte.

                                              Kaja I dont want to offend anybody,

                                              😂 I am sure you do not want offend to anyone, as usual, for that your carefully selected words 😂

                                              Kaja your parents use brainwashing

                                              Yes... because a young girl spoiled by sex addition is much better than a girl behaving as is supposed she has... Bless brainwashing, then.
                                              I am grateful everyday of my life for my brainwashing.

                                                        Addressing the original topic, I do not see masturbation as wrong. It is an activity that does little if any harm to others or their property. It can I suppose, like many other human activities, cause harm to the person doing it if they do it to the point where other activities of their lives are impacted, though I suspect this risk is overrated. Most activities done to excess can be harmful, to a greater or lesser degree. Masturbation is one more. I do think if there are partners, then the partner under certain circumstances could be impacted in a negatively emotional way.

                                                        In general, masturbation impacts no one other than the masturbator, and thus nobody else's opinion should matter. I say in general because one can always thing of extreme cases - for instance I would not be too keen on the pilot of the airplane as was in, masturbating instead of flying the damned plane! 🤣

                                                          Ines there are not medical evidences about any benefits of female masturbation.

                                                          Then there is certainly no medical evidence of a negative influence or effect when women masturbate.

                                                          Ines Relief sexual tension, strength vaginal area, sleep well... are not benefits, since they are small, exist other ways to achieve those, or are unnecessary in most of girls

                                                          What speaks in favour of this is the beautiful feeling, which is not achieved by other means.

                                                          Ines I share most of thinking of my uncle, but I think that exist another reason, it reinforces the path of behavior, setting and accomplishing the prohibition, it is obvious that all bad behaviors of a sexual nature move away from us.

                                                          Since it feels right for you, that's what you should do. I think that's good.

                                                          Kaja your parents use brainwashing.

                                                          I don't think so. I am convinced that @Ines is very capable of forming an independent opinion.
                                                          I was also brought up as a Christian. Nevertheless, I came to the conclusion that there is no God and I am now an atheist. Education may have some influence, but it doesn't have to.

                                                                    Joh What speaks in favour of this is the beautiful feeling, which is not achieved by other means.

                                                                    Making love with the right partner.

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                                                                        Ines Making love with the right partner.

                                                                        When you are 14 years old? 😉 🤣
                                                                        It can't be a solution.
                                                                        On the other side. If you develop your sexuality and you know your body and feelings this is an advantage when you are together with the right partner.

                                                                            Joh When you are 14 years old? 😉 🤣

                                                                            You should await. It is part of the nice! 😊