Why do you think masturbation is wrong?

George

Andrew Where are you from?

Austria, and the reality of the Austrian catholic church has been for the last decades that it has not been producing enough priests. While Poland for a time at least had an overproduction, so Austrian xenophobes had to live with priests with a strong accent 😆

The capacity of not recognizing oneself in an image is almost limitless in humans 😅

Andrew You must have had a lot of contacts with Poles if you know this term...... 😅

Well, I'm not the youngest. I spent a decade as a consultant jumping around Europe. One collects all kind of curious tidbits with my CV.

George

Andrew

Andrew You must have had a lot of contacts with Poles if you know this term...... 😅

If you want another example, where societal policy and societal norms have divorced: PR China's one child policy: the party has decreed 2016 that "one child per family" is not okay anymore, but 2 generations have not known anything else but "dad-mum-kid" families, so despite that 2021 even 3 kid families were legalized, all kinds of subsidies for young families were introduced, the "societal norm" is still the 1 child family, and realistically will remain for the next decades so.

No matter what the "law of the country" says.

Angelina

George

interesting how a law can become a social norm even if the law no longer exists. 😆

Mr-TM

George "societal norm" is still the 1 child family

Therefore, the Chinese population has shrunk for the first time. In one year by 800000 people.

Angelina

Mr-TM Therefore, the Chinese population has shrunk for the first time. In one year by 800000 people.

Yes, in the future the problem will be more with India and some African countries. We don't have too many people, the population is just extremely unevenly distributed.

Cb85

Men can’t find a wife in China and have nothing to do do to girls being aborted.

Kaja

Cb85 ??

youdontknowme

Kaja One of the side effects of the one-child policy was that in many parts of the country, daughters became extremely unwanted. Traditionally, sons were needed to continue the family legacy, so a surprising amount of people who knew they were expecting a daughter did whatever they could to "get another try". Be it abort through legal or illegal means, secretly give birth and abandon the baby or whatever. Which means the generations that were born during the time of the one-child policy skew heavily male, which has affected the dating market quite a bit.

Cb85

Kaja most babies abortions happen to girls in China. The couple’s want boys.
So there’s not 1/2 boys 1/2 girls. It’s like 75% men now in China.
Very sad predicament for the men.

Ines

Cb85 It’s like 75% men now in China.

No! 52% of men. However, usually in every country there are more women, so China is an odd case.

youdontknowme

Ines i assume the 75% figure only takes into account singles in the typical dating age range. Total in the age range is estimated closer to 55-45 or maybe 60-40, to get anything near 75 you need to take couples out of the equation, too.

But for 75% imbalance in the general population, you would need a lot more than 30 years of subtle cultural selection pressure.

Ines

youdontknowme i assume the 75% figure

I guessed, but I did not find anything about it.

Cb85

I follow China uncensored and others that talk about the issues there.
There is a saying in China among young men there. “Let it lye” basically stop doing things and give up.
It’s a Very sad situation.

Angelina

i think in china the population will continue to decline, due to the fact that in the period of the 1 child policy there were many more boys than girls (many girls were killed as babies), in the long run fewer children will be born.

Cb85

Angelina I agree.

toad

Sara2001

Sara2001 I've always enjoyed Sara's posts. She has chosen a man and a lifestyle she is comfortable with. By her own admission she is happy with both. That my friends is better than most people do!

Sara2001

toad Thank you. I never regretted my decision. Yes, not every aspect of my life is easy, but to live with these aspects makes both of us very proud. I think I definitely have a good life. Do I have as many orgasms as other people? Definitely not, but what I get in return is so much better😉

Angelina

Sara2001 but what I get in return is so much better😉

there are so many things that make a partnership fulfilling, orgasms are a part of it, but there are also other aspects, the most important thing is to have a partner who is 100% behind you. 🥰

toad

orgasm vs. intamacy? As a locked male i too get very few orgasms. But knowing i won't be allowed release shifts the focus to her in all areas. I've come to understand that her orgasms are mine as well. Intamacy beats sex everytime.

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